What does this mean, need answers desperately

<p>I interviewed for a job about three weeks ago that I always wanted. After a week I followed up and the hiring person said that they have gone with another candidate, but 10 positions with the same title will be opening in mid-august and even though he can't guarantee it, they might contact me back. He said I got positive feedback from my interview and I know I have strong academic qualifications. I asked him if they are going to interview me again but he said most probably not, but there might be a refresher. Now it is mid-August and I am yet to hear from them. </p>

<p>I already declined another offer for this position so what do you guys think. Is it likely that he would give me hopes and then reject me? That would be so cruel.</p>

<p>Yes, it is indeed likely he would give you hope and then crush you. Sometimes they don’t actually give you real truth, and sometimes the planned upcoming hiring is delayed or doesn’t happen at all. If you don’t have an actual offer, you need to pursue and accept other offers. You could wait another week or so and then email him as a follow up. Let him know that you are still really interested, and wanted to find out if they will be hiring anyone else for this type of position. But assuming you do need to get a job, you should not wait around on them.</p>

<p>I would agree with intparent. If you did not receive an offer in writing, then you should keep looking for another position.</p>

<p>It is always good to get feedback about your interview, but who knows how many others had positive feedback. You shouldn’t be turning down other opportunities for what <em>might</em> come to you. Not to mention today is the middle of August - if the position just opened then they are probably in the middle of the hiring process again. They might interview all candidates then decide whether they want to call you back when they make final decisions. </p>

<p>I think he had good intentions to give you positive feedback, and I think he did it to boost your confidence; you also might really have been a possibility. But he probably didn’t think you’d actually turn down other jobs to sit and wait for them.</p>

<p>My friend applied to the same position in February and she said they called her back five weeks later with an offer. So I thought the same thing must have happened to her where she didn’t get selected at first but got selected when a new position opened.</p>

<p>And I know companies don’t have a problem saying you are not selected or sending rejection letters. So I don’t know why he would sugarcoat it or not send me a rejection email.</p>

<p>So if you want to sit and wait… go ahead. It goes against the advice and experience of other posters out here, though. Most companies don’t bother with rejection emails or letters these days. They just don’t respond at all if they aren’t going to hire you. So “no news” is not “good news”. And people sugarcoat all the time, especially when they are talking to you in person. It is much easier (and less liable to result in a lawsuit) than telling applicants what they really think. You can contact him and ask if there are more positions opening and tell him that you are very interested, and see what feedback you get. That is about all you can do… but I know from lots and lots of job hunting experience that waiting for the one perfect job and letting other opportunities go by is usually a mistake.</p>

<p>The guy told me to accept if another job offer came my way but I told him I will probably keep myself opened because this is the job I want. And he just said ok. I don’t know, when I spoke with him it didn’t feel like he is just saying it to be polite and he would have said that to every other candidate.</p>

<p>I would have probably moved on if he said unfortunately you weren’t selected at this time but we will keep your info. He actually gave me a time period and even told me that I won’t have go through the interview process again.</p>

<p>To be honest, when someone is complimenting you, it rarely sounds like something they would say to any candidate. He might have said the same thing to eleven other candidates for ten positions, or those positions might have never been created (or there might have been less of them). If the positions are just opening now, they might be in the middle of interviewing new candidates (or scheduling refreshers for old candidates).</p>

<p>You could contact the company again and ask them if they are planning to open new positions because you are still interested in the position. </p>

<p>I would recommend you take another opportunity if you are able to, because a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush. However, if you’re not pressed to get a job right now, you can always wait. I’d still keep applying to things that interest you, just so you can have other options if this doesn’t work out. The way I would think of it is like being out on the waitlist for a school. They think you’re qualifications are great, they’ll say things to keep you interested, but at the end of the day, they may not have a spot for you. You always want to have another option if you don’t get off the waitlist.</p>

<p>Why did you ask this question at all? You seem quite sure they are going to make you an offer, and don’t want to hear any different opinions.</p>

<p>Do you know for sure that they have the additional 10 job openings? Did you check online to see if they have been advertised? Things could have changed since he last talked to you. I hope it works out for you as you seem to want this very much.</p>

<p>Telling you that you won’t go through the interview process again means nothing in terms of likelihood to get a call back. I’m an HR manager and we don’t re-interview people if they apply again within a certain time frame. It just means they already have the answers they need from you, so if they decide to choose you this time around, they’ll just call. </p>

<p>He gave you a time period of when positions might open up again, for which you might be qualified. Never accept something without having it in writing. Just like if you had a job and received another offer - never give your two-week notice until you have the other offer in writing (including salary). Things happen. Funding for the positions may have fallen through. More people might have stayed than they expected. Or maybe they had fewer openings than they thought and other candidates were already offered the position. You are welcome to call them and ask if they have any current openings, but it won’t increase your chances of gaining one if you’re not already on their call-back list.</p>

<p>Gotta agree with others on this one… it looks like you made a mistake by declining your other offer.</p>

<p>In the future, when you are searching for a job, once you get an offer, you should never turn it down unless you have another firm, written offer in hand. If you are hopeful for another position, feel free to pursue it and do whatever you can to delay your response to the less desirable company, but don’t just turn it down. If they really want you, they will wait. </p>

<p>When I was deep in the process of job applications, I got my first offer. The offer was for a lower salary than I had hoped and required me to relocate 2,000 miles away from my home and family. They initially said they wanted an answer within 48 hours, to which I responded frankly… I couldn’t possibly make such a major life decision in only two days, especially since I was waiting on responses from no less than four other companies. The 48 hour window turned into a three week window. The next day, I got another offer and had a non-negotiable two week window to accept that one. Not wanting to close doors, I pressed the other companies I was waiting on. One wound up rejecting me, and the other said they were still considering me… at the end of my two week window, I felt compelled to accept the second offer, even though it wasn’t my top choice and even though I thought I might have a chance at a better option. And you know what? I don’t know what could have been, had I waited and potentially gotten the job, but I do know that I have had no regrets about accepting an offer to a company that I have been with ever since.</p>

<p>Sometimes you need to make sacrifices, and a lot of times, those sacrifices don’t feel much like sacrifices after a few months/years.</p>

<p>Thanks for the responses, can someone tell me when should i follow up with this guy again? I emailed him last week and didn’t get a response. Should I call him tomorrow, the 20th?</p>

<p>If you emailed and he didn’t answer… that is your answer. Unless he is on vacation, in which case he will contact you when he gets back IF they have any interest in hiring you.</p>

<p>@intparent…

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<p>Just wanted to say thanks for the motivational support!!!</p>

<p>All four of those quotes are valid. </p>

<p>First one: Yes, it is likely that a hiring manager would give you hope and then crush you. If there is any chance of you getting hired, he wants you to have a good opinion of the company so you accept the offer, even if you are lower on the list of preferred applicants.</p>

<p>Second one: Sarcastic? Yes. The point is valid, though. Why would you sit around and wait for something to happen for you? If you want something, you need to go grab it… don’t expect things to go your way.</p>

<p>Third one: intparent said what I was thinking.</p>

<p>Fourth one: Not necessarily true, but highly likely.</p>

<p>Do you want people to tell you that you’re doing a great job? Because from the sounds of it, you’re not. Like most people just starting in the world, you are making mistakes due to your inexperience and unfamiliarity with the business world. It happens. We’ve all been there, we’ve all done that. You will continue making mistakes for a long time, and if you can’t recognize when you deserve criticism, you’ve got a long road ahead.</p>

<p>When we say that you shouldn’t wait around for your top choice if they are dragging their feet, it’s because a good number of us have done that, and it hasn’t worked out well for us. When you solicit advice, ignore that advice, and have a negative outcome, you shouldn’t expect sympathy.</p>

<p>Honestly, I am not trying to be unsupportive… but you seem to be engaging in wishful thinking. I do a TON of job hunting. I am an independent project management contractor, and I have been through the job search/hiring cycle at least 25 times. So I am pretty good at reading the tea leaves, and also know that it is a mistake to wait for the “perfect” opportunity to come through while you turn down other options and stop hunting in the meantime. I would say that two times in the last 30 years I have gotten “the call” after I had accepted something else, and wished I hadn’t taken the other assignment. But I can name fifty times when something was interesting and very promising, but it didn’t pan out. So the odds are really against you. They MIGHT call. But if they didn’t hire you the first time, your odds drop a lot. It is kind of like getting deferred from the EA pool in college admissions…</p>

<p>Hi chrisw, hmmm CC family really sticks together.</p>

<p>If you read my last post you will probably find out that I am not saying anything intparent said is invalid. I just find him to be very pessimistic and always looking at the worst case scenario. It might be a good thing but not the kind of thing job seekers are always looking for especially when they need motivational support (not that I am looking for motivational support on CC but some always helps).</p>

<p>I don’t know what makes you think I am here to have people tell me I am doing a great job or expect sympathy. I just asked a simple question just to get opinions from people who might have been in the same situation. Intparent and you might have had a bad experience but I am pretty sure there are people out there who have had good experiences who may carry different opinions (Like my friend whom I have mentioned below). </p>

<p>In my thread I never said I am sitting and waiting and I don’t want to hear what others say. I respect all of your opinions but obviously I rather honest opinions with an optimistic attitude. If intparent is unable to provide that I respect it as well since it is his personality.</p>

<p>However, I just checked the company career website for my status and it says I am being reconsidered. Also, my friend applied about a month before I did to the same company got the same response from the HR, but she just received a job offer from them. So I am feeling very optimistic!!</p>

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<p>That is not true intparent. If they didn’t hire you the first time they would reconsider you, only if your qualifications are equally as good as the candidate they hired. I know companies do not have a problem rejecting people and I also know that companies do not want to go through the tedious hiring process evaluating someone all over again. So if they didn’t hire you the first time only because someone was a little better than you are, and if the same position reopened, the odds of you getting hired for that is a lot higher.</p>

<p>I honestly think if I was hopeless he would have probably told me the cliche
" Unfortunately, you are not selected, but I wish you the best of luck in the future" and got me off of his back.</p>