What exactly goes on behind the admission office doors?

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xjayz, r u sure? B/c I thought supporting an application meant that a coach will put in a good word for you. Kinda like an extra rec. but better and more influential

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<p>Well, it just means the coach will say that he/she will, with 100% definitive assertion, put you on the team should you be accepted. That said, there are still athletes that are rejected.</p>

<p>If a coach really needs you in order to fulfill am important role on the team, believe me, you will get accepted. Especially if it's NCAA Div. 1.
(As long as your grades meet NCAA standards, which I believe cannot be lower than about C-.)</p>

<p>I'm in 11 th grade, so I was just wondering if I can make up for low grades if I det VERY good recs.</p>

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If a coach really needs you in order to fulfill am important role on the team, believe me, you will get accepted. Especially if it's NCAA Div. 1.
(As long as your grades meet NCAA standards, which I believe cannot be lower than about C-.)

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<p>Um... Ivy Leagues have a requirement that no athlete can fall one standard deviation below the overall applicant pool or the accepted students in terms of AI. Therefore, a C- average applicant who just happens to be a star athlete WILL NOT be accepted to any Ivy.</p>

<p>well xjayz, you seem to know what you're talking about. So what would you say about me:</p>

<p>ACT: 34
SAT II: 800 (math 2), 770 (math 1), 740 (physics)
GPA: 3.78 (unweighted) 4.57 (weighted, best is 4.8)
Rank: none but probably top 2-3% in 1200 class size
School: public, large, competitive
Classes: Most rigorous, Total about 14 APs</p>

<p>EC:
- Placed consistenly in top 8 or 4 in midwest high school events
- Captain of fencing team
- 3 year varsity
- Most Improved Fencer Award
- Fenced at several national tournaments
- Volunteered to direct at local fencing tournaments</p>

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<li>4 year Math Team</li>
<li>All-Conference/AMC/ AIME </li>
<li>team won 3rd, 2nd, and 2nd at State</li>
<li><p>Bunch of math awards</p></li>
<li><p>NHS</p></li>
<li><p>National Merit Commended Scholar</p></li>
<li><p>Gold Honor Roll (highest at school) since freshman year</p></li>
<li><p>AP Scholar with Distinction</p></li>
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<p>Amazing recs and interview was great</p>

<p>Plus: coach will support my application</p>

<p>(Basically almost everything in my application somehow relates back to fencing)</p>

<p>I know this isn't a chances thread, but I'm too jitery. So, xjayz, how do you think I'll do? Which portals can I pass? What will happen in the end?</p>

<p>this thread is about what goes on in the admissions office, not chances. if you want to know your chances make a new thread, don't hijack another one.</p>

<p>Agreed, Pyar.</p>

<p>Also, honestly, you're going to find out in 17 days. Chance threads are useless in general, but this is, frankly, incredibly silly.</p>

<p>Agreed. I follow NSM's example and do not respond to chance threads nor do I respond to PMs unless it is absolutely necessary to do so in my honest opinion.</p>

<p>Admiral: Did you really join the facebook group that I just saw in the (somewhat stalkerish) facebook news feed? :P</p>

<p>I participate in sports but I'm not very good...should I even bother putting it on the app? I mean I know for sure that I could never play on a college team...but if I did put it on the app, could that give me points in the athletic section??</p>

<p>Thanks!</p>

<p>I have 2 important questions</p>

<p>1.If circumstances such as (family problems or minor depression) led to low grades juts one term of hs and if your counselor includes that in the ssr/rec would this be overlooked?</p>

<p>2.Also if you dont have many ec's because your financial background required you have a job would this also be overlooked or even a benefit?</p>

<p>A job of any kind, but particularly to help with family finances, can be a big plus. </p>

<p>The circumstances causing low grades would have to be major for the admissions officers to factor those into admisisons decisions. After all, your competition are students who have maintained stellar grades desptie being homeless, having major disabilities, surgeries, being in war-torn countries, etc. Harvard also is very stressful as are all colleges, and H admissions officers want to accept students who can thrive despite challenges.</p>

<p>"Especially if it's NCAA Div. 1."</p>

<p>All of Harvard's varsity teams are in NCAA Div. I (either A or AA).</p>

<p>If Harvard has already made their decisions by March 19th, does that mean that the final decisions for all the applicants with the exception of those accepted after the first read are decided in the few days leading up to March 19th? I am wondering because the college counselors at my school make one call advoating for each student to the schools they are applying to in the beginning of March or in mid March. If the decisions have already been made at that point then having a college counselor call to advocate once for each student to each school they apply to would probably not be very helpful.</p>

<p>Well, they would have made decisions for applicants by March 19. Until the day before decisions are sent out, admissions officers check to make sure the decisions that they have reached on an applicant (remember, in the end, everyone goes through a single unified committee of 35 members) were the right ones.</p>

<p>xjayz, do you know when the 35 member committee convenes? (or if they already did)</p>

<p>I just had my incorrect SAT score fixed, and I'm having some trouble contacting my regional admissions officer. I hope decisions haven't been made yet.</p>

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<p>Most applications don't make it to the committee stage. This is true at most selective schools, not just Harvard.</p>

<p>if you are waitlisted at a selective school, does that mean your application has gone to the commitee?</p>

<p>Well, at the beginning of the thread, it was said that many waitlisted applicants actually passed the commitee, but were not accepted because doing so would have exceeded Harvard's class size.</p>

<p>lhslexingtonorg is correct -- so is siserune.</p>

<p>wow reading that article did not make me feel good. Lol, that was funny though, the shot the author took at Cornell. But seriously, what's so funny about that? I'll be going there if I get rejected from Harvard</p>