What exactly is Berkeley's AP policy?

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<p>I've been looking for it on UC's website - but it seems to me that as long as the AP score is 3, the credit will be granted. </p>

<p>However, a simple google search from other sources seem to invalidate that, and suggest I need at least a 4 to get credit for any AP exams....for English literature, I even need a 5. </p>

<p>I'm planning on taking several more APs next year but unsure if I can get 4 or 5 on all of them (especially world history). </p>

<p>Being able to send in AP credit is a huge part of my decision to apply to Berkeley - does anyone know what exactly its AP policy is?</p>

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<p>i believe you get credit but you won’t be able to waive out of classes. For example with AP English Lit. a 4 waives out of r1a and a 5 waives out of r1b, but a 3 would just give credit.</p>

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<p>You get credit units for 3 scores, but subject credit may depend on 4 or 5 scores, or may not be available for a given AP test.</p>

<p>Here is the AP credit listing by division:
[Berkeley</a> | UC Admissions](<a href=“University of California Counselors”>University of California Counselors)</p>

<p>However, for L&S majors, the use of AP credit for various subject requirements (beyond L&S requirements listed in the link above) depends on the major. For example, the math department allows a score of 3 on AP calculus AB or BC in place of Math 1A, and a 5 on AP calculus BC in place of Math 1A and 1B (see the <a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/university-california-berkeley/1305840-freshman-math-faq.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/university-california-berkeley/1305840-freshman-math-faq.html&lt;/a&gt; for more information on math placement). Look up the majors you are interested in at [General</a> Catalog - Courses & Curricula by Department](<a href=“http://general-catalog.berkeley.edu/gc/curricula.html]General”>http://general-catalog.berkeley.edu/gc/curricula.html) and check the catalog pages and the department web sites for AP credit information.</p>

<p>What AP scores do you have and what major(s) are you considering?</p>

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<p>ucbalumus, you’ve seen my thread before </p>

<p>I’m considering the political economy major that has prerequisite of </p>

<p>AP WH 5
AP micro/macro 5
stats 5
language (5) </p>

<p>if UCB takes all APs that have 3 or above, I can certainly do 5 more APs (gov politics, comparative, human geography, physics B, english language) to shorten my stay at berkeley.</p>

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<p>Not taken AP etc., for language or any subjects, joining in Fall 2013 for EECS. Do such students require additional semester to complete the programme than the usual 4 years</p>

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<p>For political economy, see:
<a href=“http://iastp.berkeley.edu/sites/default/files/PE%20handbook%20-%203.8.13.pdf[/url]”>http://iastp.berkeley.edu/sites/default/files/PE%20handbook%20-%203.8.13.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>5 on AP world history = IAS 45
3 on AP statistics = Statistics 2
4 on AP economics (both) = Economics 1
5 on AP foreign language = fulfills political economy major’s foreign language requirement; other scores may give placement into various levels (see foreign language departments)</p>

<p>Others may give you credit units that can be applied to the 120 units needed to graduate. A 4 on AP English will fulfill the first half of the L&S reading and composition requirement.</p>

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<p>EECS can be done in eight semesters starting as a frosh with no AP or other credit. It does take somewhat more careful schedule planning since there is less “slack” in the schedule than someone with useful AP credit may have.</p>

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<p>I read somewhere on the Berkeley website that taking APs is what gets you into Berkeley, but you don’t necessarily get credit for them. They might get you out of a class or two (for instance English or Calculus), but they do not fulfill GE requirements.</p>

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<p>The College of Letters and Science does not accept AP credit for its “7 course breadth requirement”, although AP credit can be used for reading and composition, quantitative reasoning, and foreign language requirements. The College of Engineering does accept AP credit for up to two lower division humanities and social studies breadth courses. Other divisions may have their own rules.</p>

<p>Berkeley, like all UCs, is fairly generous with credit units for AP scores, even if the AP scores do not give any subject credit.</p>

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<p>Does that mean I have to repeat some of the courses at UCB even though I have relevant AP credit? Or does it mean I can simply pick courses that are unrelated to the AP credits I have but fall into the breadth requirement? </p>

<p>Say, if the requirement is that I take a history course , but I have all USH EUH and WH AP - I just need to take another history course, say, on U.S. economic history,to fulfill the breadth requirement. But at the end I’ll get credit (for graduation purpose) for USH EUH WH, and the history course I picked for breadth requirement. </p>

<p>Is this correct? </p>

<p>Maybe I should call the UCB transfer credit office for help. </p>

<p>Let’s just say, I’ll have got AP calculus BC , micromacro, USH, psychology, EUH, statistics,</p>

<p>and will take gov/politics, comparative politics, WH, chinese, english language, human geography, and physics B before matriculation - of course I’ll take these in one year so not all of them will be 5 or 4 - and realistically some will be 3. </p>

<p>How many of these will be entered for credit and what courses will I still need to take for breadth?</p>

<p>Another question: If I complete community college courses (say, during high school, during summer) before enrolment but enroll as a freshman (I’m applying this August as a freshman, aiming for Regents). Will I have the opportunity to submit CCC transcript afterwards to transfer / fulfill certain L&S requirements?</p>

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<p>Yes. Indeed, it would be disadvantageous to repeat your AP credit in this situation, since if you repeat your AP credit, it is considered a duplication, and the policy is to remove the AP credit that was repeated.</p>

<p>In practice, the courses you will take for the political economy major are likely to fulfill some of the L&S 7 course breadth requirements anyway.</p>

<p>[Office</a> of Undergraduate Advising: 7 Course Breadth](<a href=“http://ls-advise.berkeley.edu/requirement/7breadth.html]Office”>http://ls-advise.berkeley.edu/requirement/7breadth.html)</p>

<p>Yes, community college courses can be transferred; see <a href=“http://www.assist.org%5B/url%5D”>http://www.assist.org</a> for transfer credit equivalency to Berkeley courses.</p>

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<p>I’m thinking of going to this college (this fall, while applying to berkeley), near San Diego, called MiraCosta…But I’m applying as a freshman though. I asked this question many times and nobody gave me an answer - since I technically won’t enroll at a CCC at time of application, I think I still count as a freshman instead of a transfer applicant. Based on my SAT I II scores, high school average, and 7 completed APs, I think I’m a guaranteed in. *hopefully not too over confident here</p>

<p>([MiraCosta</a> College - Plan C](<a href=“http://catalog.miracosta.edu/degreecertificatetransferinfo/generaleducationplans/planc/]MiraCosta”>MiraCosta College < Plan C)) </p>

<p>According to their Plan C (IGETC), this ought to be the connected UC course schedule that is transferable to Berkeley. </p>

<p>Should I then, take courses that are different (i.e., non-duplicated) from my AP credits? For example, If I am to take their
ENGL 100 Composition and Reading
and
ENGL 202 Critical Thinking and Composition
which jointly fulfill the L&S english requirement, I’ll then refrain from taking a English literature AP. </p>

<p>Same logic applies to other courses. </p>

<p>This has become an issue because I plan to take 7 further APs while I’m in that CCC taking 4 courses per semester. So it is a possibility that my AP credit overlaps with some CCC courses if not chosen wisely.</p>

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<p>If you have a 4 on AP English language or literature, then you won’t need ENGL 100, since that will duplicate English R1A. If you have a 5 on AP English literature, then you won’t need ENGL 100 or 202.
<a href=“http://web1.assist.org/web-assist/report.do?agreement=aa&reportPath=REPORT_2&reportScript=Rep2.pl&event=21&dir=1&sia=MIRACSTA&ria=UCB&ia=MIRACSTA&oia=UCB&aay=12-13&ay=13-14&dora=GE[/url]”>http://web1.assist.org/web-assist/report.do?agreement=aa&reportPath=REPORT_2&reportScript=Rep2.pl&event=21&dir=1&sia=MIRACSTA&ria=UCB&ia=MIRACSTA&oia=UCB&aay=12-13&ay=13-14&dora=GE&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Duplicating AP credit and CC courses is typically pointless for UC purposes. However, some private schools do not give credit for CC courses or college courses taken while in high school, so if you are taking a course at CC that resembles an AP course, you may want to take that AP test if you are considering such a private school.</p>

<p>No one should consider himself/herself as guaranteed in at Berkeley.</p>

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<p>I know, ucbalumnus. I haven’t taken the English AP yet that’s why I’m picking between taking CCC courses and the English AP. </p>

<p>Is English literature AP a lot harder than the language test? (according to CB, they’re of equal rigor)</p>

<p>Likely, unfortunately, I’ll have to do both 100 and 202. Then I won’t take the English language/literature AP. </p>

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No one should consider himself/herself as guaranteed in at Berkeley. "</p>

<p>lol. I was certainly too arrogant…that’s like saying “I’ve got 2400 SATs therefore guaranteed-in Harvard”</p>

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<p>Yes, taking 100 and 202 should be fine for Berkeley purposes without taking any AP English test. Though if you are considering private schools that frown on CC courses, you may want to take an AP English test anyway.</p>