what happened to sakky?

Colleges and Universities A-Z University of California - Berkeley
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<p>Rine's issues have nothing to do with the simple fact that he found that grading standards are different in the various Berkeley majors and are in particular diffferent between the physical sciences/engineering and the humanities/social sciences. Nobody has ever successfully impugned those findings of his. Nobody has ever successfully demonstrated that those findings are false, nor has anybody even seriously challenged them.</p>

<p>And you say that it's a matter of tone shifts and subtle jabs? I think you're being too sensitive. So it's not my words that I have to watch, but rather the tone now? Not only is tone a matter of interpretation, but I believe I'm allowed to adopt whatever tone I feel like. Are you saying that only posts of a certain tone are acceptable? Please tell me that you're not advocating censorship of tone.</p>

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<p>Yeah, I'm the tone censor. I hate all tones that don't agree with me. Any tone that is unfair to me or my school will not do. </p>

<p>See?^^^Sarcasm. I know that sarcasm is a bit trickier when writing, but I think most people would understand that I'm not being serious. So yes, tone is important. Subtlety is important. And if you feel like you need my blessing to speak you mind then maybe you shouldn't be here.</p>

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<p>Ha! I clearly don't need your or anybody else's blessing to be here. I just question why you even think you have the right to tell people what tone they can use. </p>

<p>Look, I respect your right to your opinions and tone, but at the same time, you have to respect my right to my opinions and tone. The whole point of a discussion board is to get a diversity of thoughts.</p>

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<p>Don't be dense, sakky. I've said over and over that you have the right to say whatever you want. I've also said that you should be more direct in some of your criticisms so others who choose to disagree can call you out on them.</p>

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<p>And which of my criticisms in particular are you disagreeing with? Are you saying that there are no fluff majors at Berkeley? Are you saying that American Studies and Legal Studies, for example, are not fluff? Are you saying that in general, the physical sciences and engineering are not graded more harshly than are the humanities and social sciences? I don't think you're disputing any of those things. So what do we have left to talk about then?</p>

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<p>Are you even reading any of these posts, or are you just waiting for me so you can post again?</p>

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<p>"Sorry to say it, Izzie, but if you're really ready for the real world, then you should be able to take all my comments in stride."</p>

<p>Sakky, please allow this thought to get through your head. You do not threaten or intimidate me. Your comments don't make my blood boil, or my ears steam.</p>

<p>"After all, have I really said anything that's so terrible and so disheartening? "</p>

<p>No. Because you never really, truly, SAY anything. Your comments are shady, cloudy, and indirect. You only hint at things, and then try to play the innocent character when people see through your remarks. You claim that you're being honest, but who are you trying to direct? You're not assisting the undergraduate population that post here. You claim to be taking a neutral perspective, but you get slammed for being negative. Perhaps you should be more receptive to peoples' responses.</p>

<p>"Be honest. It's not that I use stats in my posts. It's the fact that I post at all that bothers you. In fact, you'd probably be even MORE incensed if I posted without the stats, right? Again, be honest."</p>

<p>Okay, I'll be honest. You have a right to post here. It doesn't matter how questionable I find your intent of posting to be, because this is, after all, America, and the last time I checked, the internet was a free battleground for all to take part in. What bothers me is the way in which you respond to me and others. You are very fond of accusing me of being less than ready for the real world. Well, you're partly correct. I'm going to college, mostly on my parent's dollar. I'll be living in a sheltered land of community style living and dining. My real world life will begin shortly after I receive my diploma. But the real question is this sakky: Did you enter the real world yet? Because it seems to me that you have a lot of time on your hands to accuse nineteen year old girls of not being ready for the real world.</p>

<p>Hm. Now, GentlemanandScholar is a Berkeley student and he doesn't seem to be complaining about his experience thus far. But I'm sure there are some things he hasn't enjoyed 100%. Would you admit that there's room to assume that it depends what kind of student and person you are when it comes to actually enjoying UC Berkeley? Or is it all the institution's fault for your obvious sub par experience?</p>

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<p>Are you reading any of my posts, gentlemenandscholar? </p>

<p>And to Izzie, are you really sure that I haven't said anything? Really? If that's really true, then why are people getting incensed over some of my posts? If I haven't truly said anything, then what is there to be incensed about? I've gotten into veritable wars with guys like West Sidee. Why, if I haven't actually said anything? What exactly have guys like us been fighting over, if it wasn't something that I actually said? </p>

<p>And besides, I'll turn that question around. If I haven't truly said anything, then why are you complaining about what I have said? </p>

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You claim to be taking a neutral perspective, but you get slammed for being negative. Perhaps you should be more receptive to peoples' responses.

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<p>Oh, BS. I AM taking a neutral perspective. It's just that everybody else expects to have a highly positive perspective, so my neutral perspective looks negative by comparison. For example, when a guy like West Sidee was here saying that everything in Berkeley was like heaven, I didn't see too many people (besides me) complaining about that. But why not - after all, his perspective was far from neutral. In fact, that was a heavily slanted perspective. It's just that it was slanted in the way that people wanted. I presume that if I came here gushing about the greatness of Berkeley and never mentioning a single iota of negativity about Berkeley, you wouldn't be complaining. </p>

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It doesn't matter how questionable I find your intent of posting to be

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<p>What does that have to do with anything? I don't question your intent of posting here, or anybody else's intent of posting here. So why do you feel the need to question mine? </p>

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What bothers me is the way in which you respond to me and others. You are very fond of accusing me of being less than ready for the real world. Well, you're partly correct. I'm going to college, mostly on my parent's dollar. I'll be living in a sheltered land of community style living and dining. My real world life will begin shortly after I receive my diploma.

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<p>Allright, so you concede that I was onto something. </p>

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But the real question is this sakky: Did you enter the real world yet? Because it seems to me that you have a lot of time on your hands to accuse nineteen year old girls of not being ready for the real world.

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<p>And let me put it to you this way. For the moment, let's say that I have entered the real world, and not only that, but have acquired significant life experience. Let's assume that for now (I'm not saying whether I have or not, but let's just assume it). Would that change your mind your opinion about me in any way? It seems to me that it probably won't change a thing. You've already made up your mind about me, so it doesn't matter what the answer is to your question. Am I right? </p>

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Hm. Now, GentlemanandScholar is a Berkeley student and he doesn't seem to be complaining about his experience thus far. But I'm sure there are some things he hasn't enjoyed 100%.

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<p>But if that's true, then you admit that he hasn't been entirely honest. Yet I thought you wanted honest opinions. In fact, if what you say is true, then you could say that Gentlemenandscholar is giving a slanted opinion (because he's hiding the bad stuff). But I thought you said that posting slanted opinions was not good. So which is it? </p>

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Would you admit that there's room to assume that it depends what kind of student and person you are when it comes to actually enjoying UC Berkeley? Or is it all the institution's fault for your obvious sub par experience?

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<p>Have I ever said that the type of student you are doesn't play a role? In fact, on some other part of CC, I have said explicitly that the type of person you are plays a role in your Berkeley experience. </p>

<p>On the other hand, I also maintain that Berkeley also plays a role in determining the type of experience you get. Both the student and the school share responsibility. I never said that Berkeley was completely at fault for the bad experiences of some, and the students bear no responsibility. On the other hand, you can't say that Berkeley bears no responsibility either. When a student flunks out or otherwise has a bad experience, then both the student and Berkeley are at fault.</p>

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<p>Well since I was mentioned in both posts I think I'll comment. Yes, of course I've had bad experiences at Cal, you're only fooling yourself if you say otherwise, but my positive experiences have outnumbered the negatives by a huge margin. I truly feel lucky to be able to attend Cal, so if I have to wait in line for 2 hours to pick up my financial aid I'm not going to b1tch and moan about it and say that berkeley sucks. Cal is what it is, which is a huge, sometimes impersonal institution. I knew that long before I ever stepped foot into a classroom, so I wasn't shocked and dismayed when a prof. didn't remember my name. I have taken classed where the students have blown my mind with their intelegence, but I've also run into some knuckle-heads. That's life, and I am willing to bet that there are some knuckle heads at Stanfurd, Harvard, Yale, etc. I've only attended one university in my life, so I don't feel like I can really compare my experience here with what life would be like at any of the aforementioned schools. Maybe they ARE better, but I can only go off of what I know, which is that for all its faults Cal has been an amazing place for me. If Sakky didn't like it then fine, maybe he was always P.O.ed that he ended up here instead of MIT or Caltech or wherever, but I would certainly take his (and my) oppinions with a grain of salt.</p>

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<p>sakky. you read into what i say very deeply. i guess once my posts are disected by you, they hardly make sense anymore. which is why im not going to comment about this issue any further.</p>

<p>i dont expect everything in life to be perceived in a positive outlook. i know what to expect at berkeley, both the good and the bad.</p>

<p>i initially joined cc to ask questions about successful admission and to gain a bit of perspective about the life at cal. granted, i have learnd a great deal, and many peoples' posts have been encouraging. </p>

<p>youre entitled to your own opinion, and perhaps i've been quick to judge your character and your place on these forums. i apologize if ive contridicted myself, or acted out of line. i now see that your outlook on the quality of life and education at cal is overpowered by those who hold opposite opinions. i'm going to take the advice of others and just not read into what you say so deeply. good night.</p>

<p>btw, gentlemanandscholar, what is your major at cal? If you don't want to disclose, that's okay..im just curious.</p>

<p><3,</p>

<p>Izzie Bear</p>

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<p>English!!!!!!!!!</p>

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<p>ooo, me toooooooo! Any reccomendations as to which professors/courses I just have to experience at Cal?</p>

<p><3,</p>

<p>Izzie Bear</p>