<p>I haven't thought about it, but what happens if you do not get accepted to any of the schools you applied to? Are there music schools or colleges with music depts who accepts on a rolling admission basis?</p>
<p>It's a sad, sad, sad affair. (Last year) I only got into one of the music schools I auditioned at (and a music dept--who accepted everyone with an inch of talent lol.) If you auditioned at a school that has to academically accept you and then musically accept you, and you REALLY want to go there, get in academically, but not musically...(and nowhere else for music) then go there if you want for a semester (or year-depending on their requirements) and try to transfer into their music department/school.</p>
<p>Or...you could always audition at Peabody at Johns Hopkins!! They have late april auditions lol. And their application postmark date is APril 1st. GOOD LUCK!!</p>
<p>I don't think this will happen to you, aaviolinist! But, just so you know, one of my sons, who is now a sophomore at an Ivy, took a gap year between HS and college, and had a great interesting enriching year. He started college with a lot of maturity and independence, too.</p>
<p>Don't worry you can just take lessons with someone during that year if it doesn't work out. I know there's late auditions at Mannes since one of my friends decided they want to do violin again and will audition there in May.</p>
<p>Its just interesting while we wait for the results of all these schools. The thought occurred to me - just what if everyone says no. I just think that would be a really sad day. It would stand to reason if you want to major in violin and the music school admits you that the general admission should admit you also. oh well maybe all musicians have 3.5 GPA - not in this household - capable of such, but dont have it right now.</p>
<p>aaviolinist- Looks like you've got a couple of acceptances already and a couple of more in the works. If your choices were well researched, your d happy with the atmosphere, choice of instructor/studio, level of peers and ensemble quality of selected options, you should be fine.</p>
<p>Other factors may boil down to merit money/financial aid packages.</p>
<p>For a serious student of performance who for whatever reason doesn't make the cut, or wants to go for a higher level school or instructor there is the gap year as Veiux suggests.</p>
<p>A couple of points if you choose this route: </p>
<p>the teacher should be the best you can find/afford/connect with that will bring your d to the level required to reach her goal. All the standard caveats in selecting instructors apply here.</p>
<p>her task is practice, rehearsal and perfection: 4, 6, 8 plus hours a day. Maybe more, maybe less, as it varies by student. This is not a casual undertaking; consider it a full immersion.</p>
<p>health insurance- many plans require dependent kids to be full-time students if over 18. I would recommend checking coverages through yours or husband's employer or administrator.</p>
<p>Consider a few courses at a local university or community college to keep the academic focus alive and the brain functionally. Initial freshman requirements like English, a history, and other requirements are easily transferable credits.</p>
<p>A gap year can be a viable option if nothing pans out, but requires serious thought and planning.</p>
<p>Some additional thoughts are here: <a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/search.php?searchid=10571164&pp=15&page=2%5B/url%5D">http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/search.php?searchid=10571164&pp=15&page=2</a></p>
<p>Don't sweat it. I doubt you'll need it.</p>
<p>I really had no idea that Peabody and Mannes had such late audition and associated application dates.</p>
<p>I could see both these schools as being viable options for those who auditioned at similar and higher level programs and didn't get in, and want another shot as an afterthought, alternative or last ditch attempt. But given the level of competition, I have to wonder just how many are actually accepted into noted programs at such a late date.</p>
<p>I assume FAFSA and Profile info would already been prepared for other apps, and it's simply a matter of getting the info to either or both schools, as well as completing any institution specific financial paperwork. I'd also wager that most talent and institutional aid, as well as some of the federal grant help would also be pretty well exhausted.</p>
<p>For those coming off a series of rejections making a last ditch effort, I'd also imagine the stress of a last minute audition as a potential issue.</p>
<p>Anyone else have thoughts?</p>
<p>Peabody and Mannes seem unlikely as "safeties" - especially for kids who are not successful elsewhere. I would think these schools might have their radar up for kids making last ditch efforts.</p>
<p>But all is entirely speculation on my part. I'm not really sure from the Peabody website who can even audition in May. No performance majors (I think that's what they mean?). No music ed majors. No DMA or artists diploma. ...</p>
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All performance majors are heard in February, but May auditions are limited in a number of ways:</p>
<p>There are no May auditions in Composition, Conducting, or Flute.
There are no music education interviews in May
There are no DMA auditions or Artist Diploma auditions in May.
Applicants for the Homewood/Peabody double degree program cannot audition in May.
Graduate Assistantships are awarded based on February audition results, so while you may audition for acceptance to the MM or GPD programs in May, you may not apply for a graduate assistantship.
May Audition Week scholarships and financial aid will be dependent on funds remaining from February Audition Week.
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<p>To answer the OP, there are tons of schools with rolling admissions that may have music programs (probably of a rather lower quality) - a truly desperate student could probably spend a year there, and apply as a transfer, while staying on parents' insurance. Be warned that applying as a transfer is sometimes harder, though.</p>
<p>Another option is to look at overseas schools. Although Germany's application dates, I think, tend to be around early March.</p>
<p>Every year, about a week or two into May, a list is posted at NACAC</a> - Home page containing colleges of all types that are still accepting applications for the upcoming fall semester. There are often some very good ones on the list. An intended performance major could apply to one of them and take some classes that would transfer (English, music history, basic keyboard skills, languages and so forth come to mind. Most music departments insist on their own theory classes.) If a student could coordinate the location of a school on that list with a good private teacher, perhaps even one who teaches at a music school of interest, then they would be ready to make another run the following year as a transfer student.</p>
<p>No there are people doing late auditions.</p>
<p>Peabody for certain stuff is a lot more manageable, like for violin. It pays the bills for the Curtis teachers who teach there. If you had trouble at earlier auditions, you'd have a chance to learn from your mistakes, and you should be less nervous because of your audition experience. Mannes is a lot less competitive than the other NYC conservatories, but it has really good teachers. If you were unlucky with auditions, it would be a good idea to audition. If you go for violin, study with Ms. Kavafian.</p>
<p>This happened to a student of mine last year, didn't get in to any schools, even back ups. He took a year, studied really hard, practiced his butt off, played in a lot of ensembles, re-applied this year and got in several places.</p>
<p>Vieuxtemps5,
Does Ms. Kavafian take undergrad students at Mannes? Does she have many students at Mannes? My daughter would love to study with her. Mannes does not seem to be anyone's top pick school, but you are right--the faculty is wonderful.</p>
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<blockquote> <p>Peabody for certain stuff is a lot more manageable, like for violin. It pays the bills for the Curtis teachers who teach there.>></p> </blockquote>
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<p>Could you please provide the support for this comment?</p>
<p>blue,</p>
<p>I am not sure how many students she has. She has to teach at a lot of different places. Part of the problem with Mannes is that you have to do so much theory and musicianship classes, and that turns a lot of people off.</p>
<p>The students of Ms. Kavafian I know are at Curtis. However, Lucie Robert is amazing. She has brought amazing violinists to Mannes, so she could also be a choice. Just contact them personally, Ms. Kavafian is really really nice and will probably write back pretty quickly.</p>
<p>Thumper: Peabody isn't really considered a very good violin school. Apparently some of the other instruments are good like piano, but they accept like half the people who apply, and offer little scholarship. Now, I've been chided for being "arrogant", but if you're asking me to compare Peabody to Juilliard or NEC or CIM, USC, Curtis, Colburn etc... it has a considerably lower level. It's funny but everyone I know from Peabody transfered somewhere else within 2 years. If you don't believe, just ask around a bit about a certain violin teacher who is lose with words. Curtis provides the students (fame/credibility), Peabody, pays keeps the lights on. Curtis doesn't pay much to most of its teachers, in case you didn't guess.</p>
<p>There's a lot of competition with violin faculties, and Peabody isn't really winning right now.</p>