<p>...we're still waiting to hear from the University's admission dept. It's a little nerve racking thinking that my S could be accepted into the music dept but not to the university. Is this a common occurance with schools?</p>
<p>Usually the other way around since most music students have really high GPAs and good standardized test scores. In most cases in schools with rolling admissions, you'll know you're been accepted to the university long before audition season.</p>
<p>And some music schools won't accept you if the university doesn't accept you. So even if the music school wants you, if you get denied by the university then you get denied overall.</p>
<p>And it does happen....music student sometimes are accepted to the music department, but not the university. The school policies vary so much by school. At some schools, you must meet the academic admissions and music admissions. At other schools, if you meet the music admissions, the music department can lobby for your acceptance to the university. At other schools, you must have an academic acceptance first...or they won't even schedule an audition (this used to be the case with UMich...is it still? It's the main reason UMich dropped off of DS's list).</p>
<p>Thanks for the responses! </p>
<p>I wish I could say they settled my nerves! ;)</p>
<p>Hang in there SaxDad, you and your son should have an answer in a few weeks at most. The waiting game in March is one of the hardest parts of the whole process.</p>
<p>It depends on schools. IU admits you to general univeristy polulation first. Therefore you are also eligible for non-music scholarships. Then audition will determine your music school admission. Michigan handles it differently. D submitted her Michigan app. by 11/1 thinking that she might be able to get scholarship from the university, but didn't hear anything until 2 weeks after her audition which was 2/16. She applied to music major only.</p>
<p>Thanks for the insight on what IU and Mich do, pointgirl. That helps to illustrate the differences in admission procedures. </p>
<p>...and thank you BassDad! You're right! I could do without this waiting stuff!</p>
<p>Saxdad-</p>
<p>Make sure you don't jump the gun and decline an acceptance because of a misunderstanding of a financial aid package. It's been our experience that while most acceptance letters will detail any merit $ awarded, you may not get the full aid picture until a few weeks later. If you have any questions or what appears a lack of info regards additional aid, ask the school before deciding.</p>
<p>SaxDad, was your son accepted to UF's School of Music because I just received a letter today also saying I received an acceptance to their school of music sax studio, but I am still under regular decision II so i wont know until march 23</p>
<p>Thanks for the info, violadad! One school did accept my son but without any details of a scholarship - if there is one. </p>
<p>Wow, GatorPotential! It looks like you and my son are in the EXACT same boat! (UF/sax studio/reg dec II). Did your letter mention anything about notifying the music school if admission to the University was denied? Do you think that means the music school will do their best to get you in (if needed)? By the way - CONGRATS on your acceptance to the music school!</p>
<p>well the professor spoke with me and said he will do my best to get me there, but the letter did say that this offer is contingent upon your acceptance to the university of florida. may i have your son's screename please or yours? i dont think that the school of music would accept you if they didnt have any prior knowledge that you would gt accepted. they probably already know that me and your son are going to get accepted or else they would not have wasted the space. they say on their site that people can be admitted before they are accpeted, but i do not think they would allow UF to reject you, i believe they work out some agreement. by the way did your son receive a scholarship? i didnt lol....but im still glad i got in seeing a lot of saxes tried out.....im sure me and your son are getting accepted....welcome to the gator nation. can i have your screename?</p>
<p>SaxDad, I certainly understand the anxiety of waiting. D was accepted at Carnegie Mellon in the Music Dept (Violin Performance) but to date we have yet to hear from the University. You would think if one gets accepted into the music program, they would know that your chances are good to get into the university! This is my daughter's first choice and that is why its no nerve racking. we check the mail daily to see if any news - guess we have to wait until April 1. What a drag!</p>
<p>We actually had one school say that son's scores were low, but that the music dept had ways around that!</p>
<p>From what I understand from some counselors, admission dept will consider low scores if the audition is very good. Apparently, they believe if you are a very strong musician you may have taken it seriously enough to spend a lot of time perfecting your talent and other areas like academics may suffer. Dont know if that holds for a lot of the colleges but it must for some because three counselors told me the same thing.</p>
<p>This is definitely true at a number of schools. Maybe not for Northwestern though. I've heard z(first hand) of well-known teachers really trying to get really good performers whose grades were not good enough for Northwestern into the school and not being able to.</p>
<p>I think it is somewhat true. For really good musicians, schools may lower their standard requirements a bit, but not too much. It does them no good to have a student that can't survive the school. I know that the Ivies recruit heavily at Juilliard precollege. Can't imagine they expect these kids, who spend unlimited hours practicing, to have the kind of scores & grades they normally expect.</p>
<p>Son has a friend who was accepted to NU with stats that were notably below the high school's accepted average, but I'm guessing he is an anomaly--an extraordinarily mature headed-for-opera voice. Did not go, though.</p>
<p>The kids I have known who went to Yale, Harvard, and Princeton after doing Juilliard prep and its equivalent had top grades and scores -- the music was the added plus that got them in, but their stats were on a par with the other admittees. Those schools do not have music performance programs; they want talented musicians in the mix of students but don't cut them slack. At universities with music performance programs, it may be a different story -- UCLA performance majors, for example, may get into the College of Arts and Architecture with lower stats than Letters and Science students.</p>
<p>Yep, the musicians my S has known who have gone to HYP have been stellar academically and musically. A supplemental CD isn't going to trump stats.</p>