<p>legal/illegal arguers...please; laws aren't necessarily reasonable. And if you think someone's gonna get caught...no.</p>
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But, my point is that it doesn't MATTER if the laws are reasonble...that fact is, if someone wants to follow the law, they are put at a disadvantage next to their classmate who takes Adderol illigally.</p>
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But, my point is that it doesn't MATTER if the laws are reasonble...that fact is, if someone wants to follow the law, they are put at a disadvantage next to their classmate who takes Adderol illigally.
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<p>And they may also be at a disadvantage compared to someone whose parents have enough money to hire a tutor. </p>
<p>Anyways though, yes, it is unfair. Life is unfair. Some who illegally take Adderall do genuinely have problems with attention span (but who just are undiagnosed). But most of them who resort to illegal methods probably don't have such problems.</p>
<p>Honestly though, it's unfair with respect to test integrity (if the person does better on the test than how he would normally be expected to do). On the other hand, the person who hires a tutor specifically for a test is also being unfair to the integrity of a test. And it applies even more to a cheater. At least the person on Adderall and the person with tutoring actually learns (even though knowledge acquired on cramming sessions is also more likely to be forgotten).</p>
<p>So I'd like to pose a question - why do you think Adderall is unfair in a way that tutor are not? (barring issues of legality)</p>
<p>And if you're going to bring up the question "well, people on Adderall don't need to try to study for the test", well, many intelligent students don't really need to "try" to study for a test either. A more reasonable argument would be along the lines of a societal paradigm - certainly, a society that builds itself upon the Protestant work ethic is going to be more efficient than a society that builds upon an ethic of taking drugs and being lazy. Nonetheless, the existence of differences in intelligence between individuals damages the reputation of the Protestant work ethic (although Adderall would only deal more damage to the system). Still, it's unlikely that the use of Adderall is dealing damage to this work ethic (except with respect to a number of individual students who don't realize that beliefs towards self-improvement do improve outcomes in the long run).</p>
<p>Fact is - life isn't fair. The hardest workers don't always get results. But within specific groups of intelligence/personality (as in, using them as controls), then working hard will make a difference in a way that intelligence does not.</p>
<p>Sure, IQ scores only mildly correlate with income and other indicators of success. But frankly, IQ tests aren't particularly good in measuring intelligence. Moreover, as the society becomes increasingly informational, intelligence will only become more important.</p>
<p>It's important to realize that results come from both intelligence and hard work. And as I said before, those who use Adderall in substitute for hard work are using it as a crutch. But one can use Adderall in addendum of hard work (a lot of people with poor attention spans HAVE to work hard in order to make half as much progress as everyone else). Moreover, it's conceivable that some people are using Adderall to finish their homework quicker so that they can do research. Nonetheless, it may be correct that more people use Adderall in substitute for hard work.</p>
<p>After all, if two applicants to a particular school have the same stats, but one has taken Adderall and the other has not taken Adderall, then the person who has not taken Adderall should be admitted (since the person who doesn't need Adderall to get at the same results should naturally have a higher baseline level - unless the person who takes Adderall takes it regularly - which makes it such that the baseline level of the person who has taken Adderall is at the level where he has a ready supply of the drug). Of course, this is assuming that no informational asymmetry exists - which is clearly not the case.</p>
<p>But again, if two applicants to a particular school have the same stats, but one has personal tutoring and the other doesn't have such tutoring, the same logic should apply. Maybe the effects of Adderall are stronger than those of tutoring. But maybe it's the other way around.</p>
<p>I'm not trying to **** everyone one off on the subject. I just wanted to gain as much knowledge as I could on the subject and the responses are helping. I love hearing the different views, it's helping a little bit and I think that is why this site was made. So thanks.
I have my mind made up on the subject. I got prescribed by a doctor that hands it out like candy and it has helped me this year. My grades increased in one semester, but the difference is I did not let the doctor tell me how to take them. Honestly the drug makes me feel really low as I come off it and that feeling is something I do not want to feel everyday. My doctor thinks I am taking it everyday. I figured it out for myself. I only took them for certain classes because other ones made me over think and that was hurting me( sociology I did not take it and Economics I did take it, again thats just me) This is my style and my body, though everybody is different. </p>
<p>I think some of the problem is that a psychiatrist is given so much trust from their patient, just in the first 5 seconds they meet because of the higher position. Do not get me wrong they usually do a great job for people who need them but to be honest anyone can find a doctor to prescribe it. I have to pay that ******* 100 DOLLARS every time I visit him to reload and by reload all he does is sign his damn name on something that looks like a post it note. </p>
<p>I feel some doctors treat it as legal drug trafficking. I would not trust the doctor I got it from as far as I can throw him. Its weird though because he has patients twice my age taking the drugs as he tells them too. (Everyday) Maybe they do need it everyday but at the same time I feel there is at least one of his patients that might be like me and may not want to take it everyday. </p>
<p>I appreciate the input you guys are giving me; this is what the site is for so keep it coming.</p>
<p>Another question, I heard from a friend that the government gives this drug to jet pilots. Is this true? Anyone have an idea about that? He could be full of ****.</p>
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Another question, I heard from a friend that the government gives this drug to jet pilots. Is this true? Anyone have an idea about that? He could be full of ****.
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<p>Thanks for the feedback. How did you get into contact with a doctor who prescribes it like candy? And you don't have insurance, right?</p>
<p>personally i don't care. life isn't fair. i don't take them because i don't want to suffer any side effects but if other people want to take them then so be it. i don't care if i don't end up getting a job because someone used drugs to their advantage during college. survival of the fittest.</p>
<p>Nope no insurance, i pay a hundred dollars every d*** visit though. He actually got mad at me today for not coming in for two months because im suppose to take it everyday but i dont cuz it makes me feel crappy. My sister found him somehow for me so i got lucky, but they are out there so i suggest finding random psychiatrists around your area. Maybe like shady building complexis, i dono its hit or miss. </p>
<p>Life is all about survival of the fittest, it always has been.</p>