<p>600 development admits, that would surely make for some “hob-nob with the snobs” eh? :)</p>
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<p>I know the admit rates of these schools. I dispute that such a large proportion of the class is consumed by hooked admits.</p>
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I’ve results from all school and would like to know which school in the vicinity of menlo park send 25% of senior class to HMSPY.</p>
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<p>I explained that to me all cases where admission standards are compromised are considered developmental admit and include legacy, under-represented-minorities etc.</p>
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<p>Well, that’s not what development is, so could you break out the legacies, URMs and actual development admits for us? 600 per class is a huge number, so I think it is reasonable to expect a bit more clarity here.</p>
<p>POIH, USACO only takes 12-15 students to their national invitational, from which four are elected for IOI. This is after a series of six competitions over the course of the year. </p>
<p>As I have said repeatedly over the years, being an Intel/Siemens finalist does NOT guarantee admission to an Ivy. (Neither does USXXO.) What we suspect happened is that Cornell assumed S was aiming “higher” and that Harvard looked at his app and realized he had MIT written all over him.</p>
<p>600 developmental admits? They must in hiding - my daughter hasn’t met any in four years.</p>
<p>"I’ve results from all school and would like to know which school in the vicinity of menlo park send 25% of senior class to HMSPY. "</p>
<p>. <a href=“http://www.menloschool.org/data/files/gallery/DivisionDocument/2009_College_Profile.pdf[/url]”>http://www.menloschool.org/data/files/gallery/DivisionDocument/2009_College_Profile.pdf</a>
see for yourself…</p>
<p>and, oh by the way, the senior class size has varied between 130-135 over the past 4 years.</p>
<p>Where’s the proof for your numbers?</p>
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<p>GM, I already tried to correct POIH on that back two pages ago in post 171, but it seems to have not registered somehow.</p>
<p>still waiting POIH…</p>
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<p>But why is that “of no use”? That describes most of the schools in the country, and I daresay it also describes a good portion of the Harvard applicant / admitted pool. What, students from those schools don’t count or something? Why does Harvard (and every other college, to be sure) do dog-and-pony shows across the nation? Because they want to reach BEYOND the usual suspect high schools. Because they don’t want all their private school kids to be Harvard-Westlake, Harkness, Latin School of Chicago, etc. and they don’t want all their public school kids to be New Trier, Scarsdale, New Canaan, etc.</p>
<p>POIH – a developmental admit is one in which the student is otherwise not qualified but the parents are going to pay (or perhaps have paid in the past) big, big bucks to the school and may also sit on trustee or fundraising boards. By this, we mean big bucks. As in consistent 7 or 8 figure gifts for years, buildings named after the family, that type of thing. There are not 600 of them every year. Give me a break.</p>
<p>Right. I’d be surprised if there were as many as 6 each year, never mind 600.</p>
<p>DonnaL - a friend of mine is employed by U of Chicago in this capacity (director of development for a particular area - her boss was the guy who landed that $100 MM donation a few years back). It’s only a handful of people who can afford to give at this level.</p>
<p>and I’m still waiting for proof from POIH…</p>
<p>I guess the silence speaks for itself, huh?..</p>
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<p>Menloparkmom, your kid’s school is indeed impressive. 52 Stanford acceptances in three years! </p>
<p>However, unless there is a typo or I’m mistaken (which happens all the time), I don’t think you can conclude that 25% of the students were sent to HYPSM. From the pdf file you provided, I counted 100 “acceptances” to HYPSM, not “matriculations”. There is a big difference between the two. One student may received multiple acceptances from HYPSM and be counted in multiple buckets. All we can say from the file is that at least 12-13% of the students were sent to HYPSM, based on the 52 acceptances to Stanford. 12% to HYPSM is still very impressive.</p>
<p>So a couple of years ago I’m sitting with a well known Chicago economist at dinner who is railing against the admissions department. An alum he knew quite well called him to see what he could do for his daughter. It seems though he donated seven figures to the University, his daughter, who had stats in the upper 50% of admitted students, was wait-listed. The alum was incredulous. The admissions department told the economist they listened to the development folks, but they had little influence on their decisions. The young woman was eventually admitted off of the wait list. So, I doubt one will find an over abundance of developmental admits at Chicago or elsewhere.</p>
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<p>There are some who argue that multiple acceptances by top schools are fairly rare. In my experience, unless students submit only one ED or EA application, it is not that uncommon, even though it’s impossible to say why someone was admitted by H but not by P or Y or vice-versa. So I would agree with you about double counting.
At the same time, it is useful to include all admitted rather than only those matriculating in the pool of “top-school caliber” because, even if they do not matriculate at one of these for some reason (often financial), they are still top school caliber.</p>
<p>PCP and marite,
MOST of the students who applied to Stanford applied SCEA, and matriculated there. I believe the last figures I saw were 19 accepted, 17 matriculated. MOST of the students who applied at Princeton applied ED and matriculated there.
The college counselors at Menlo discourage top students, many who are recruited athletes, from applying to multiple IVY"s," just to see where they can get in". Their advice is listened to carefully by both students and parents. Students who are accepted at colleges like HYPSM end up matriculating there, with few exceptions. The college admissions officers at HYPSM know that offering an acceptance to a Menlo student is not a waste of time.</p>
<p>Thanks, Menloparkmom.
I get the feeling that private schools do discourage applying to multiple top schools and even limit the number of applications students send.
But looking at acceptance posts on CC, it is clear that some students do rake in admissions. How representative are they? Hard to say. CC after all is not representative. </p>
<p>I am also thinking that there are a lot of Ivy caliber students who don’t bother to apply to Ivies because they prefer to stay closer to home. That would be true especially in CA where the UCs are a big draw.</p>