<p>OK…to me, it’s all about class size. I feel like students can get a much more personalized experience than they can at a larger institution where there’s at least 100 students per class. Additionally, I would argue that many of Wake’s classes are much more rigorous (not just in the whole “grade deflation” issue, but in the actual mastery of material that’s required) than at many other institutions. Those are the two things that really set Wake apart academically to me. Additionally, the small school creates a sense of community, yet we also have big-time athletics.</p>
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<p>I agree with you in the sense that it’s all a matter of personal opinion. Remember, though, that you’re writing on a Wake Forest board. Many of us chose Wake in part because of its size. I do believe that, in general, kids who are happy at big schools are less particular about the size of the school as kids who purposefully choose smaller universities. I chose Wake in part because I didn’t want to catch a bus to class every morning. Trust me, I know the scene; I live about 10 minutes away from Ohio State, and commuting like that can’t be fun, especially in the winter. On a sidenote, I don’t think you should feel bad for your daughter not choosing Wake; her choice is assuredly the right one regardless of your (erroneously) perceived attitude of the Wake student body, and I’m sure she’ll do fine wherever she has chosen to go.</p>
<p>GoBlue - No, you do not simply “go” to Law School. You complete an undergraduate major first, typically in fields such as Political Science, English, etc. For Pre Med (as well) you can choose any major, as long as you complete the required Bio, Chem, Physics, and Math courses. </p>
<p>The strength of our grad/UG university schools should be determined separately for this very reason. Students apply separately to each. Each division prepares its students for different types of careers. Your conception of a “whole” university’s strength is irrelevant and obscure, unless you are referring to prestige (in which case, get the facts straight, because prestige DOESN’T equal excellence, necessarily). As far as being “arrogant, as you’ve all been to me.” Check out these FACTS to PROVE the information I presented to you. </p>
<p>[The</a> Top Undergraduate Business Programs](<a href=“http://bwnt.businessweek.com/interactive_reports/undergrad_bschool_2009/]The”>http://bwnt.businessweek.com/interactive_reports/undergrad_bschool_2009/)
[HITTING</a> THE BOOKS](<a href=“http://bwnt.businessweek.com/interactive_reports/undergrad_bschool_hardwork_2009/]HITTING”>http://bwnt.businessweek.com/interactive_reports/undergrad_bschool_hardwork_2009/)</p>
<p>Take a look at the 12th column to see our #1 Academic Quality ranking tie with Wharton (yes, better than Ross, Cornell, Stern, Sloan, Haas, etc.); also, notice our 34th student survey rank, indicating that our “lower” ranking is due, in part, to students complaining on a survey given to ask the students about their workload, etc. Also, check out the second link if you don’t believe our business school is for serious. </p>
<p>You need to take your classmate’s senior arrogance out on someone/something else. We Wake Forest students are proud of our school. It isn’t perfect, but it’s more than often a perfect fit for us. Most schools are this way. Instead of coming onto a school forum with an attitude, try asking for information in an (at least) neutral tone, to illustrate the lack of knowledge you have regarding our university and college in general.</p>
<p>It is always valid to ask if a school is “good” however Original Poster you must do so being aware that you will recieve an EXTREMELY biased answer! Everyone is out to make their school look better or another look worse, it is the facts and do not let anyone tell you otherwise (they are obviously lying)! Anway returning to your question:</p>
<p>Wake is considered an excellent school for various and countless reasons. The undergrad program which i believe you are inquiring about when referring to USNWR ratings is amazing. The undergrad ranks top 30 consistently and with the amount of amazing universities in this country that is amazingly good. It is true that grad school has an effect on undergrad but in Wake’s case examining them by their grad programs is not a true gauge of their undergrad. This is because Wake’s undergrad is the main focus of the school making it the most outstanding aspect of it. </p>
<p>When gauging if an undergrad program is “Good”, more than USNWR comes into play because they consider aspects such as freshmen retention rate which are not indicative of the quality of education but to the fact that it is not for everyone which is true for every school. There are 3 most important factors when gauging a schools academic quality:
- Quality of Profs
Quality of profs is obvious because the curriculum and level of education is determined by this. - Student Body
The intelligence of a student body and their diversity and talents is important because it is who you as a student are surrounded by and “feed off of” so to speak. - Campus Life/opportunities
Aspects like abroad programs, internships, small classes provide for a better education and make up the last category.</p>
<p>SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION:
Wake has all of these. Amazing profs, some of the best in the country (Maya Angelou). Their curriculum is ranked 2nd in the country for rigor and breadth behind MIT which says a lot!!! Acceptance rate, incoming GPA and test scores, are important but when examining the intelligence and breadth of the student body it is clear it is an amazingly talented group. Finally wake undergrad is rich in opportunities like some of the best study abroad and smallest classes with personal attention in the whole country</p>
<p>Princeton and Harvard who top the USNWR will never admit that it is an extremelly biased and decieving method of comparison. Those schools always stay on the top when in reality THEY ARE NOT FOR EVERYONE and there are even better institutions out there that lack the name but provide superior education. This is due to the simple fact that Princeton just cares about Princeton and their name nothing more, not the students nor their well being. Wake cares immensly about the well rounded and personal attention of the students and is one of the countries best universities for undergrad if you care about a true education.</p>
<p>This is an impartial analysis as I know more than you could imagine about college and I am not biased proven by the point I am not attending there I merely have respect and knowledge of a quality education and institution when I see one. Also for those worried about bribes and it being a diploma factory? You have to be kidding me! obviously you were not educated a school anywhere near the caliber of wake becuase of your demonstrated ignorance.</p>
<p>Never heard of Wake Forest or Calloway. Must not be good.</p>
<p>no, you’re just ignorant</p>
<p>If you’ve never heard of Wake or Calloway, why are you on the Wake Forest board?</p>
<p>First of all, it is not spelled “there’s.” If you had any formal education you would be aware that it is spelled “THEIRS.” Also, you would not say “there” business school isn’t good. You would say “their” business school isn’t good. I hope whatever university, a university with a much, much lower academic caliber than Wake Forest, they will teach you this rule. </p>
<p>Wake Forest is Number 25 in the nation. Can’t argue with that.</p>