<p>really nasty in my opinion. I guess many girls have a lil hair on their arm, but its usually blond, so i guess its okay since its so hard to see. But in my opinion hair is not very feminine.</p>
<p>@ad.bc:
There's a girl at my school I find quite pretty who has arm hair and I never really noticed it much. I absolutely would still be attracted to a beautiful girl if she had armpit hair. Leg hair is a turn off, but I definitely would still choose the supermodel.</p>
<p>I think it's ridiculous that anyone would compare body hair to really bad acne or smallpox. Hair IS natural in healthy women...</p>
<p>It's funny that this thread will never die.</p>
<p>this topic is one of those amazing crowd pleasers. Something like the presidential elections on the other hand wouldn't last very long,.</p>
<p>i don't ****ing want this thread to die!
you all need to realize how insane this is! !!!
i can't believe that guys can be so harsh on girls.</p>
<p>Some girls are just as bad about body hair on guys. Food for thought.</p>
<p>yeah, i know that but i think girls are a lot more forgiving about body hair than guys are. i know that girls wouldn't turn down a super hot guy just because he had no leg hair (or chest hair or whatever is the equivalent for guys). </p>
<p>im feeling a lot of man hate right now lol</p>
<p>i mean this really annoys me. why do girls have to look perfect for guys but guys can be slobs and gross looking and girls will keep lowering their standards for them. you see a lot more hot girl+ugly guy couples than you do ugly girl+hot guy couples. it just seems so unfair to me! </p>
<p>and then sometimes theres this really unattractive guy who likes you, and you're supposed to think 'well he can't help that he was born like that' but at the same time you know that if you yourself were even near how ugly he was in the looks department, he wouldn't give you a second glance. </p>
<p>i personally don't care how guys look, unless they happen to be like really grotesque, but it kind of makes you feel bad to know that they wouldn't feel the same way about you.</p>
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It's not anything psychological ... its a matter of disgusting, like really bad acne...
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<p>Finding something disgusting is often psychological. Call it cultural conditioning, whatever, it's not usually an innate reaction (and it's certainly not in this case...it's not like unshaven legs directly indicate anything unhealthy, evolutionarily speaking). Not only are there parts of the world in which women don't shave, but there are parts in which people are actually averse to a lack of body-hair. </p>
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i know that girls wouldn't turn down a super hot guy just because he had no leg hair (or chest hair or whatever is the equivalent for guys).
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<p>Okay, I think that this thread is as silly (though interesting) as the next guy does, but we may as well be fair. I definitely know girls who cringe at the idea of a significantly hairy guy. I can think of a hand-full of sitcoms, movies, etc. that have made jokes about this. It's at least equally superficial.</p>
<p>When you meet her, how would you know if she had hairy legs? Chances are that they would be covered.</p>
<p>This is just wow.....</p>
<p>well I understand guys not liking the hairy legs/armpits/really bad facial hair because they can easily be taken care of and it would be questionable why the girl didn't, but what about girls who are born with light skin and dark hair!? That means that body hair and arm hair is more noticeable than on blondes...it's fine and thin but usually still noticeable. *** is the girl supposed to get a body wax or something? that's going a bit too far methinks. </p>
<p>but yeah, on guys I think leg hair was good, but I prefer less chest hair and armpit hair. I wouldn't dump a guy for having a lot of chest hair if he was otherwise cool, but I would definitely be more attracted to him if he had less. yay for david beckham! =P</p>
<p>it seems as though a majority of guys in this thread equate girls not shaving their legs to girls not practicing good hygiene and not caring a whole about maintaining their appearance. (believe it or not, you can tell a whole lot about how much self esteem a person has just from looking at his or her appearance.) i would say that these guys, including myself, are more turned off by the fact that they think that the hypothetical girl doesn't practice good hygiene and doesn't care enough about herself to maintain her appearance. thus, a girl who is beautiful but doesn't practice good hygiene or care about maintaining her appearance would be seen as unattractive to these guys.</p>
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When you meet her, how would you know if she had hairy legs? Chances are that they would be covered.
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well yea, but the hypothetical example that ad.bc gave us said that we know the girl has hairy legs.</p>
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i know that girls wouldn't turn down a super hot guy just because he had no leg hair (or chest hair or whatever is the equivalent for guys
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there really isn't an equivalent for guys in regards to hair. the equivalent would probably be girls being turned off by shy guys. i don't think i know any guys who would turn down a good looking girl because she was shy while i'm pretty sure girls would turn down a shy good looking guy.</p>
<p>trust me. girls would not turn down a shy good looking guy. in fact they'd probably be even more attracted to him because of his 'mysteriousness' and they'd be like 'oh he's so cute and sweet and innocent'. </p>
<p>why is everyone saying this is a silly thread? this issue is very important to me.</p>
<p>in regards to the self-esteem appearance idea
couldn't it also be taken the other way around?
if a person didn't pay attention to their appearance (basically looked like a slob) couldn't that mean that they had so much self confidence that they didn't care how they looked because they didn't rely on looks?</p>
<p>one time i went to school dressed+groomed really really bad to see what would happen. like you know how in seinfeld george says that people who wear velvet sweatpants have given up on life? it was that bad. i thought i'd be really embarassed, but it was actually really liberating. i know thats a weird word to use but its honestly how i felt. </p>
<p>i never realized just how much depended on my looks to get attention+special treatment (and im not even that great looking, which says a lot) and then when i didn't have any of that to depend on it was like i could be myself and everything i had gotten was because of me not because of how i looked. and another weird thing is that it seemed like people liked me better when i had uglied myself up. </p>
<p>i have a lot of respect for people who can dress shabbily and not care at all. because they don't have to use their appearance as a crutch or anything. sometimes when you're beautiful everything comes so easy that you never realize what you yourself are capable of doing without them.</p>
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why is everyone saying this is a silly thread? this issue is very important to me.
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i think it's a cool thread.</p>
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trust me. girls would not turn down a shy good looking guy. in fact they'd probably be even more attracted to him because of his 'mysteriousness' and they'd be like 'oh he's so cute and sweet and innocent'.
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i don't know... i attended a pretty big diversity workshop (atleast 30 very different girls were there. from the party girl to the intellectual girl.) one of the activities we did was create our ideal partner. (activity was related to gender relations and just seeing how the other gender thought. a lot like the objective of this thread.) i remember that almost every girl said that shyness in a guy was unattractive and that they equated it with a lack of self confidence. by shyness they meant very shy. (similar to how the hypothetical girl is very hairy.) so shy that they couldn't make eye contact, couldn't initiate conversation, etc. guys at the conference pretty much agreed that they wouldn't care about this.</p>
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in regards to the self-esteem appearance idea
couldn't it also be taken the other way around?
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yes and no, but not the way i'm talking about it. i'm talking about people dressing up respectfully just taking care of themselves in general. you're thinking about girls who dress "slutty" and wear a lot of makeup and revealing clothing. i'm pretty sure that most people know that these girls don't have a lot of self esteem and that's why a lot of them get treated like s*** in relationships.</p>
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<p>Though they may not turn down shy guys (hehe), they're definitely not as attracted to to them as they are to other guys. I hate to say it, but nice/shy/whatever guys finish last. It's the truth.</p>
<p>Oh, this is funny. Really funny.</p>
<p>I totally just fueled the fire. Oh well.</p>
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I hate to say it, but nice/shy/whatever guys finish last. It's the truth.
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<p>I wrote a poem about that. It's so true.</p>
<p>When I wrote that, I predicted that you'd see it and comment. Just so you know.</p>
<p>I don't find them adorable. I find them annoying.</p>
<p>And guys who think shy, mouse-y girls are just the ish should just go die. Because they don't know what they're missing.</p>
<p>"why do girls have to look perfect for guys but guys can be slobs and gross looking"</p>
<p>-SOOOO not true. Girls today are at least 20 times more shallow than guys are. If a girl is hot but she's super slutty and a b*tch, she won't be able to get any non-creepy guys. </p>
<p>But girls will take a good looking guy regardless of any personality defects. </p>
<p>At my school theres this girl whos really really REALLY hot, but she has really dark hair, and is a hairy person. So whenever she'd roll her sleeves up itd be like "OMFG", major turn off. I think she had laser treatment or wax or something so now she's twice as hot. </p>
<p>SO if you have dark hair, just bleach it or take care of it.</p>