<p>Second BYU. Caffeine is overrated! ;)</p>
<p>Seriously OP, I can't think of a more perfect fit than Berkeley as far as your intellectual/party/urban criteria. Incidently, I would go with those exact same criterias myself, with perhaps extra consideration for general aesthetics of campus and surroundings. Cal is less of a commuting school than UCLA and more of a college town while being at the heart of the Bay Area just across from SF and near Oakland (great indie scene there.) Of all the very top academic places, it is perhaps the most lively and stimulating.</p>
<p>If you want to widen the search (as you should), Columbia, Georgetown, McGill, Wisconsin, Michigan, Texas, Penn. Other factors will help further delimit your choice: are you into city partying/clubs/bars or more into college parties? Music scene, pop/classical/jazz? Big time sports fun? Occasional ski trip/beach trip/hike/bike ride/sail with friends or GF? Do you want to go to a less Asian place (Georgetown, Wisconsin, Penn,...), or do you occasionally want some great dim sim here and then (Cal, Columbia)?</p>
<p>PS: If you end up at Cal, I can recommend a kick@$$ hairdresser (she's also a great DJ).</p>
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Drew, the furtherst point from Ann Arbor to Detroit is 45 miles. The outskirts of the city are a mere 25 miles away. Most of the fun things to do in Detroit are within 35 miles from Ann Arbor. I have never had to drive more than 45 minutes to get anywhere. It takes that long to get to some places within congested cities like Houston, Chicago, NYC and Los Angeles.</p>
<p>As for Ann Arbor's population, it is close to 120,000, which makes it a city. That's not including the 40,000 students who attend universities. </p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ann_Arbor%5B/url%5D">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ann_Arbor</a>
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<p>No, from central campus to detroit it is exactly 43.4 miles</p>
<p>IF your hair is as good as you say it is then you are in at Harvard (I would even say that it might be a safety). :)</p>
<p>But seriously, yeah</p>
<p>Look at the ivies (Other than Dartmouth)
GTown (Their motto is pretty much Work Hard, Party Hard), UChicago etc.</p>
<p>Ya, I'm pretty white washed so I don't really feel the need to break away from my asian roots. Thanks for the reaffirmation on berkeley calx. I thought originally that berkeley was the school that fit my criteria perfectly so it is nice to hear someone support my vision of berkeley.</p>
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As far as things to do at college I just want a lively city. I can pass up on outdoors stuff. However, I want a college experience in an urban school with lots of people but I want the school to have a sense of unity and community. Clubs and bars would be nice but first few years as an undergrad I'll probably stick to college parties mostly. As for music, I'm starting to get into the indie scene so berkeley is beginning to seem like a great fit. I'll have to research it more though.</p>
<p>You might look at Pitt. Easier to get into than other schools named here, but has a lot of what you're looking for (big school, lively urban setting, social life, solic academics).</p>
<p>Drew, if downtown Ann Arbor to downtown Windsor, Ontario (further East than Detroit) is under 45 miles, I doubt that Detroit is further away. The Detroit Metropolitan airport is a mere 23 miles away from downtown Ann Arbor. Ford Field (Detroit Lions stadium) is just 30 miles away from downtown Ann Arbor.</p>
<p>Like I said, Ann Arbor is a vibrant city with much to offer. It has roughly a population of close to 120,000 (160,000 when you include university students). That's not including Ann Arbor suburbs like Saline, which have a combined populations of roughly 30,000. And should you want enjoy some large city amenities like an international airport (direct flights to most major cities in Europe, Latin America, South America and Asia), professional sports (Redwings, Pistons, Lions), Entertainment (can you tell me the last music major tour that did not stop by Detroit), world class cooking (the Lark, the Tribute, Emily's), shopping (the Somerset Collection) etc..., all you need to do is drive 25-45 minutes and you're there.</p>
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Drew, if downtown Ann Arbor to downtown Windsor, Ontario (further East than Detroit) is under 45 miles, I doubt that Detroit is further away.
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<p>I used mapquest to see how far it is from the office of admissions to detroit and it said 43.4 miles. And the ann arbor "suburbs" population does not equal 30k Saline + Dexter + Chelsea = 15k</p>
<p>When you said smart kids that know how to party and Urban... ONE School came to my mind</p>
<p>University of Wisconsin...beautiful campus, good academic reputation, sports, #1 party school in the nation i believe (unless its Boulder?)</p>