what should i play for audition?

<p>I am required to play 4 pieces...
Prelude and Fugue by J.S. Bach from the Well-Tempered Clavier, volumes I or II
Sonata by Beethoven, excluding Opus 49 and Opus 79
Major composition by a 19th-century romantic composer
Composition by a 20th-century composer </p>

<p>i came up with a list...
Bach-goldenberg variations or Fugue by Beethoven
Beethoven sonata no.15, 16, 17 (I,II) , 18, 21, 22, 23, 24, 29, or 30..
Brahms Paganini Variations either heft 1 or 2 or Liszt La Campanella or Chopin Etude...
Stravinsky - Petrouchka Piano Version...</p>

<p>These are the pieces I came up with... Are the competitive enough for Peabody and UMD?</p>

<p>can anyone help me get a good choice of classical pieces??</p>

<p>unless I misread, you have to play a prelude and fugue from the Well Tempered Clavier - Goldberg variations is a different piece altogether…and you must have typed Beethoven by mistake…anyway Bach’s Goldberg Variations do not count as a prelude and fugue. You might get away with a Toccata.
You should discuss your repertoire with your teacher, who knows your skills and the range of possibilities.</p>

<p>I know there are some savvy “piano people” here so they will jump in and comment upon the appropriateness of the selections you have listed, I’m sure. But, since none of us know you as a person, your playing abilities, temperment and all of the things which go into making you a musician, you really shouldn’t be relying on advice from “strangers”! You have taken the time to check out the requirements- by the way, are they the same for both of the schools you listed and how about other schools which may be on your list-but you need to sit down with your piano instructor and make the final decision with him/her. There is no point in coming up with a list of pieces you like and which may fit the specs, but which may not show you to the best advantage. So, talk to the good folks here, but it’s your teacher who needs to be signing off on this, even more than you! What other schools are you considering and what is your ultimate goal? Performance, music ed, collaberative piano, etc?</p>

<p>I was talking to my teacher. She was glad with the list I came up with…;;
for the Fugue I might stick to Beethoven’s 30 or 31…</p>

<p>I mean, I do not personally have a goal to become a
pianist…
since i know there is such a big competition… no one really becomes a pianist, if they are good or excellent, they have to be perfect and superb…;;</p>

<p>oh well… thanks guys^^</p>

<p>I mean, all these pieces were what I have been studying over years…
I just have to enhance…</p>

<p>I wrote something based on my understanding from your previous posts in August where you said that you did not have a teacher. I saw your reply in which you apparently now have a teacher, so I deleted what I wrote. I just want to say that you should follow your teacher’s advice at this point. And please note that Peabody has prescreening cd due on Dec. 1 so you don’t have much time to make changes.</p>

<p>Thanks Rigaudon!
I really appreciate ur comment!
I got a lesson teacher
I really like Beethoven, but I really hate Chopin and Bach…;;;
But I really like Rachmaninoff, Stravinsky, Brahms, Liszt, Schumann, etc…;;
Im just trying to apply to less competitive schools…;;
Yes, I read the screening cd that I had to send to Peabody and Indiana…
I mean, I have been playing those pieces since years ago…
So I just need to practice a bit to get it going…</p>

<p>Thanks :D</p>

<p>One more thing. If as you said, you do not personally have a goal to become a pianist, I am curious about why do you want to major in piano performance?</p>

<p>I would rather go to education… but as well as learning the performance in piano…;;
I dont know how to explain… but I just like performance and education,
still I know that theres no point of becoming a well-knowon pianist… Cuz there is no hope…</p>

<p>BTW…
I dont think there is any problem with my hearing… ( I heard that peabody had one, only if u got accepted…)
I m pretty fine with getting notes…;;</p>

<p>I can get
CD GA out of
CDEGA</p>

<p>probably Im okay… thats what I hope for…</p>

<p>Sorry to ask so many questions, but when you say education, are you referring to your getting a college education or specifically wanting to major in music education (which prepares one to teach music in public schools, elementary through high school)? And in addition to Peabody and Maryland, where else are you planning to apply? I see you mentioned Indiana. You also mentioned “less competitive schools”. Which ones are you considering, and for music education or piano performance?</p>

<p>I do not want to become a school music teacher…
But what I want to be is a private lesson teacher, after I get experience in series of competitions (like … little mor than ten? but not many major ones…)
I mean, I want to major in performance, but what I want to do is giving private lessons and/or sometimes writing basic pieces… (not classical…)
Do you see what i mean??</p>

<p>Im going to apply to
UMD
Indiana
Peabody (maybe??);;; (its audition is in nex year…)
these schools…
but not like
eastman, oberlin, juliard, berklee (keyboard?), etc…</p>

<p>Once again, I’m confused! Smilemask, how are you compiling your list of schools? You say you are going to apply to Indiana and Peabody, but not Eastman or Oberlin. The first two are every bit the equal of the latter two and just as competative, so I think it would be good for you to sit down and have a long talk with your new teacher and see if he/she can help you decide what schools to apply to. I’m not exactly sure (for a piano performance major) how many schools you should actually apply to, but if you can afford it, consider sending your application and CD to a couple of those others (such as Eastman and Oberlin!).
You seem to think that you are not good enough to get into well-respected schools or for a career in piano performance, but then you turn around and say that you are going to have to enter a lot of competitions to gain experience. You can not go ahead with an attitude like that! If you are indeed playing the pieces that you have listed and are looking at a school like Indiana, then you ARE a good musician!! Please, have a better opinion of yourself and know that you CAN be what you desire and if that is to be a great instructor, then go for it. (remember, the world needs more really good collaberative pianists too, and you’ll never lack for a job!).Good luck and please, let us know where you apply.</p>

<p>Mezzo…
I thought US music schools looked more into the sound, not the technique… (please correct me if im mistaken…T.T);;;
So, you are saying that I could probably… (like 50%) get into indiana or UMD if I play above mentioned pieces??..;;
Like, La Campanella and Paganini Variations, Fugue, and Beethoven Sonata is not that bad…
but I just need to worry about Petrouchka…;; I just thought all the kids applying to music major coudl play like pirkopieff (im not sure if it is spelled right…) or ravel…;;</p>

<p>Im just so confused…</p>

<p>I will just try to talk to my teacher again…(btw she’s korean… although you won’t care the nationality…)</p>

<p>I know it’s confusing- it’s really hard to determine odds on getting in to any school without A) hearing you and B) knowing what a particular school happens to want/need in any given audition cycle. Trust in your abilities and in your teacher (btw, my D’s teacher is Korean and I think she is terrific - musicians are special people!).</p>

<p>So… anyone plz tell me like what average people play in audition…</p>

<p>Do they play Petrouchka, La Campanella, Paganini variations?
or is this too much…? ( if it really is too much to play in audition, i could narrow it down to either la campanella with paganini variations by brahms or just the varaiations…);;;</p>

<p>Its almost midnight here…
Btw… Im trying to apply to schools near my home… Im in virginia, so like Peabody and UMD would be good… and maybe Indiana…;;
but I really want to go UMD… (thats my goal…);;;</p>

<p>Again… should I play pieces like Petrouchka? even though I know that I can be accepted with what others play?;; If, what others play is slightly easier pieces…</p>

<p>Ok…;;
so, I will tell about myself…
My fingers stretch about c to g… which makes me better chance of playing Petrouchka…</p>

<p>But, I have really hard time playing with a duet or trio, because I have never done a trio, and my sound gets over volume…</p>

<p>Also, I went into various minor competitions back in Korea…!;; like 4 years ago… I won few prizes…</p>

<p>I have few friends who majored in Violin and Piano in UMD, Indiana and Peabody…
THey told me that my technique’s good, but I have a big time trying to express my feelings, not the composer’s definition…;;</p>

<p>I hope you are going to research these schools in depth (via the internet, to begin with), and talk to a knowledgable teacher who has sent students to conservatories and knows the kinds of pieces that are successful at auditions.<br>
All of the schools you mention are competitive, highly competitive; if you indicate to them that you are not serious about being a pianist, you are unlikely to go very far in the application process…there are lots of applicants, and they are looking for students who have not given up on the idea of being a performer before even starting. Not all of these schools has prescreening. But all will expect you to perform a Bach fugue (usually Well Tempered Clavier, sometimes they’ll accept a Toccata), a Beethoven or Mozart or Haydn sonata, a Romantic piece (Schumann, Schubert, Liszt, Brahms), and a 20th century piece. You will probably play at least part of all of those pieces at the audition. Don’t play something you haven’t entirely mastered.</p>

<p>Smilemask-
I am not a pianist, but I know a little bit about the nature of high level music programs, especially in the competitive instruments like piano, violin and so forth. As others have said, without hearing you no one can give a valid assement of your skills or how they fit in even if unlike myself they know the piano. </p>

<p>In terms of the auditioners “looking for sound only” and not technique, unless I have been living on another planet that is a big part of what they are looking for,technique. At the top level programs (which Indiana and Peabody are most definitely in, they are not ‘safeties’ by any means),the competition for entry, especially on the piano, is basically at a level where they expect someone to be technically and musically at the highest levels, where they already know a lot of the repertoire, and expect to work on the ‘nuances’ required of being a performer (in a sense, they are looking for students to be at the level a generation or two ago would be considered almost college graduate). Yes, there are variations to this, I am sure there are times when they will admit someone who they think has a lot of potential and may not be quite as polished, but that is a relative term. It is extremely competitive, and what makes a differetce between getting in and not is going to be found in details a lot of people might not even recognize (especially myself). </p>

<p>The other question I have is how much experience does your teacher have with getting kids into high level programs? I am asking this, because there are a lot of teachers out there who frankly are not equipped to judge that, who did not train on that level themselves and/or never were acquainted with that world (put it this way, there are a lot of instrumental music teachers out there, and a lot of them don’t have a clue IMO what goes on in the high level programs). This isn’t a knock on your teacher, since I don’t know the person, but it is critical that they know the performance level needed for that level of audition. Not the repertoire (which I assume most teachers know of from their own training) but rather what is expected at that level in terms of technique and sound. If you don’t think your teacher has that kind of experience, you may want to try and find a high level teacher, maybe at a university near where you live or a teacher reputed to turn out high level students, and ask for an evaluation. I can speak with experience about this, my son had teachers who went to high level programs themselves, but when he switched to his current teacher several years ago we were suprised at how much he hadn’t learned, how many things were wrong technically, that his older teachers didn’t pick up. More importantly, they both thought he was all ready to get into a high level prep program, when he was still a long, long away when he was with them…it is really critical to have someone who knows evaluate your level, because not everyone knows, not by a long shot.</p>

<p>To me it sounds like you want to become a private piano teacher and maybe do some performing and composing on the side, which is fine. You don’t need a music ed degree for that, so performance would be fine, but I think you need to figure out how good you are before deciding where to apply. Obviously, going through a high level program in performance is going to provide you will good training, but you need to be realistic about how to achieve your goals, though it doesn’t hurt to try out for a high level program, you also need to be realistic and set your goals based on what is achievable. You might be batting your head against a brick wall with the first (or maybe even second tier programs, since competition levels at those schools is pretty heavy duty these days), if you aren’t near what is required. I also add don’t judge how good you are by competitions you have entered, there are a ton of music competitions out there, and even the higher level ones of the local competitions may not be a good indicator of anything other then you had what it took to do well in it…competitions, despite what some claim, often don’t indicate much about how well someone will do on auditions, there are a lot of kids who have won a slew of local competitions and then find out they don’t have what it takes to get into a top level program.</p>