<p>Hey I was just thinking of that same poem (Deferred as well...)</p>
<p>Don't worry...we'll all form a club of deferred kids and one day be much more successful than any of those accepted Harvard-ites. Who needs 'em anyway? </p>
<p>I've thought up a new word for us..."Dejected," 'cause we've been deferred, and most of us will be rejected, too, so we're "dejected." Okay, I thought it was funny.</p>
<p>I posted my initial response almost immediately after i read my decision, so obviously I was a bit emotional. </p>
<p>The thing is, I think many of us, myself included, see Harvard almost as a barometer of how hard we have worked, how well we have used out time, and how skilled we are academically. Therefore, being deffered makes us feel like we didn't do something, like we failed somewhere. Sure, there are plenty of schools we could get into, but Harvard presents the utmost challenge and gauge. </p>
<p>It has been a goal, and let's face it, at least from my experience, when people ask where I've applied, and I say Harvard, Georgetown, GWU, NYU, and Marquette, I'll give you one guess as to which school people talk about. I'm the only kid in my class applying to an ivy league school (and pretty much an out-of-state school), so basically I'm "marked," and many people have been asking "when are you going to find out?" "are you in?" etc, so it will be hard tomorrow to say "no." I do pretty well in school, so I think everyone was expecting me to get in, therefore when I say I don't, I will feel like a failure. May not be true, but still, that's what it feels like. </p>
<p>Maybe Harvard will come through in April. If not, GWU Honors, Georgetown, NYU, and Marquette are all fantastic schools. </p>
<p>Plus there's always transfers and grad. school!</p>
<p>okay. i will use dejected from now on--i love it!</p>
<p>Hi guys, first of all my heartfelt congrats to Harvard 09! Best wishes! Anyway, today my best friend that I grew up with got deferred from Harvard. I was more nervous for him then I was for me when I was waiting for my Columbia decision. Anyway, my whole school and our families expected him to get in, he has an amazing personality and valedictorian/perfect scores/research/volunteering/music etc etc. I was really heartbroken when I heard of his decision but I want to tell him that there is still hope for April.</p>
<p>But the question is, is there really hope for April? How likely is it for someone who got deferred to get accepted to Harvard?</p>
<p>i just exploded</p>
<p>But seriously folks, what can we do as deferrees to up our chances for RD?</p>
<p>That's my question.</p>
<p>yes please answer that question. and also the question about what % deferrals get an A in APril</p>
<p>What happens to a dream deferred?</p>
<p>It writes more essays, has more accomplishments, tries it's hardest, and becomes realized in April. </p>
<p>Or it explodes then.</p>
<p>ive heard its around 3-4%, compared to an ~11% RD acceptance rate</p>
<p>3-4% of 3120 applicant=100 people approx.
Fabulous. I can't take anymore SAT II's because I have to start studying for my board exams. Which leaves me with the option of... writing more essays? Submitting more recs? Is that stuff allowed?</p>
<p>ive heard its around 3-4%, compared to an ~11% RD acceptance rate</p>
<p>Just one more kid among 3120 other kids who have been deferred. A mere statistic for next year's applicants.
All in all, I'm just another brick in the wall...</p>
<p>"The thing is, I think many of us, myself included, see Harvard almost as a barometer of how hard we have worked, how well we have used out time, and how skilled we are academically. Therefore, being deffered makes us feel like we didn't do something, like we failed somewhere. Sure, there are plenty of schools we could get into, but Harvard presents the utmost challenge and gauge." </p>
<p>i agree :(</p>
<p>It's crazy. I wish I knew why I got deferred. (don't read the rest of the post if you think you will get offended)</p>
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<p>Harvard, what do you want? I am an immigrant from Iran, who came here last year without knowing a word of English. I learned the language in a year, and now I`m about to publish two philosophy papers!!! I played Soccer at international level in Iran. What else do you want? I won 3 prestigious math/science awards in Iran! What else, huh? Tell me whats wrong with me? Tell me whats wrong with those 3000 friends of mine who you deferred?!!! Harvard you made a mistake! I hope you regret it one day! Actually, we will make you regret it! One day you see our names somewhere that your students couldn't achieve...
Pardon my English. I already speak bad, now that I`m furious, I write like S***!!!</p>
<p>i'm sorry siavash....you definitely deserve to be there more than i do; i'd gladly give you my spot if i got in, but i'm sealed to the same fate as you</p>
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<p>Not necessarily. After all, it's simply not feasible that only the allowed number of admitted students into Harvard is equal to the amount of students who are well-qualified for Harvard. Luck plays a huge role in the decesion. </p>
<p>After all, admissions are all comparative. Person A who applies to Harvard in some year and gets rejected may have been admitted if he/she had applied a year before. You never really know. </p>
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I think many people feel the way that hunter does. Since i started high school, I have worked my ass off because society, my parents, my counselours all told me that working hard and getting good grades will get me into where i wanted to go (harvard). I have spent countless nights up till 4 in the morning working on my paper or my project. I did everything socitty told me I should do, now where is my rewarded. I have done everything for naught.
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<p>Simply working hard to conform with societies standards is no way to work. First off, the reward of your work is that you are now a very well-educated person. Hard work never comes without reward.</p>
<p>Secondly, it's plainly obvious that you don't enjoy doing the amount of work you do. You don't enjoy challenges; rather you simply do them to try and please others and Harvard admissions officers. </p>
<p>I'm telling you right now that's not the way to approach life. </p>
<p>Working extremely hard just to get into Harvard is analagous to getting a job that you hate and staying with it just because it pays better than a job that you would like to do.</p>
<p>You say you want to work hard because you wanted to go to Harvard, yet you also imply in your post that you regret working as hard as you have now that you know you got deferred. </p>
<p>At Harvard, you will have to work as hard if not harder than you have been working in high school. If you dislike that type of life, then why do you want to go to Harvard in the first place? Wanting the prestige only is not a good reason...</p>
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<p>Wow. How can you honestly consider Harvard admissions to be an accurate gauge for academic prowess? Admissions are all comparative, remember? It's like curving tests in high school. Say a 90 or above means you get accepted into Harvard, and you score an 85, but the highest score that year was a 95. The 5 point curve bumps you up to a 90 and you're admitted that year. What if there are better candidates that year, and the curve is only 3 points? You don't get in. </p>
<p>But, ultimately, you still scored an 85, Harvard admissions do not decide that number, that number depends upon the hard work you put into high school.</p>
<p>Harvard admissions do not determine how academically strong a person is. The effort a person puts into his or her work determines that strength.</p>
<p>Therefore, if you put in a tremendous amount of work into your high school courses, then you should feel proud because you know how academically strong you are. You know how much work you put in to become the well-educated person you are today. </p>
<p>Now, if you're disheartened by the fact that comparatively you are not the "cream of the crop" this year, then you have some priorities to sort out, because needing to be the best is never a healthy thing. </p>
<p>Striving to be the best, as we all have done, is, however, a healthy and admirable trait.</p>
<p>Don't worry...A deferral is not the end of the world... I am kind of overwhelmed by some sorts of suicidal thoughts, yet that does not matter. There is still a chance. Anyhow, there are still many other great colleges and universities we can get in so keep up the good work and you (and the rest of us) will accomplish all your dreams. We do not need Harvard to achieve our goals. Or is it that all that you say you have reached is because of Harvard? I do not think so...it is because of you and your efforts.</p>
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<p>I don't understand how deferral/rejection from a college can lead to suicidal thoughts. Once you get your head together and realize how comparatively insignificant Harvard is to how you've initially been viewing it, you'll realize it was foolish to ever think those thoughts in the first place.</p>
<p>Suicide most certainly is not the way to go..ever.</p>
<p>Harvard is an illusion. A temporary one. Read SIMULACRA AND SIMULATION by Jean Baudrillard...you`ll feel better...</p>