<p>What undergraduate Schools have the highest % of their students get into Med School. Anyone know where the data is for this. Would be interesting to look at.</p>
<p>Not every undergrad school posts this and either way, it’s not your school that gets you into med school, it’s you that gets you into med school.</p>
<p>The colleges that recruit the students who were among the best in their academic achievement (SAT/ACT scores) and ECs in high school! (And it happens to recruit relatively fewer number of internationals.)</p>
<p>One CCer at one of such schools posted that sometimes he feels that all of his classmates go to a professional school or i-banking/consulting. He also posted that it is relatively more difficult to stand out in non-academic ECs because this kind of college tends to recruit well too many students (e.g., more class presidents or the leader in a club than the students who were not one of these in high school) with the leadership personal quality. Your classmate may be busy in working on an upcoming Olympic game as (s)he may achieve at that level!</p>
<p>A college having an affiliated medical school tends to attract more premeds (JHU, Penn, WashU, Harvard, Yale, Columbia, Brown, UCLA, Stanford.) If you like this kind of environment (populated with premeds) and go there, you will meet many premeds at any of these schools.</p>
<p>MCAT 2,
I doubt there is any shortage of pre-meds at Princeton, Williams, Amherst, MIT, or any other competitive school. Going to any top school is going to surround you with pre-meds.</p>
<p>OP,
Please read the stickies at the top of pre-med topics page as well as focus on acing the SAT first (you said you’re a high school sophomore, right?) before you start worrying about such flawed statistics as which school sends “the highest percentage” of students to med school. Any school in the top 35 universities/15 LACs is going to be just fine for even the highest ranked medical schools.</p>
<p>i<em>wanna</em>be_Brown, Agree. I believe I expressed the same view in the first paragraph of my post #3. Roughly speaking, top colleges = schools have the highest % of their students get into Med School.</p>
<p>In my last paragraph of my post #3, I just want to add that having an affiliated medical school is like an additional magnet which attracts aspiring premeds (especially those who believe they are very good at sciences and those in high school who have convinced themselves that they have to and are capable of getting into a very top medical school just because of their real or perceived strength in sciences.)</p>
<p>Also, those who do not have good enough convincing non-academic ECs in high school to get into a very top college (e.g., do not have much to offer to contribute to the buzzing campus acitivies. No schools like those gunners who tend to curl up in the libraries excessively, unless they are the few who will be destined to the academic track. Few students from top colleges actually go that academic route in the end – that is mostly for those internationals whose other career paths are mostly blocked due to some non-academic reason, as i believe), but still have the academic strength comparable to those student’s at these very top colleges, tend to like to attend the schools like JHU and wustl (if their family has the money or the students get some break financially due to their academic merit) because of their real and/or perceived strength in medicine-related research opportunities.</p>
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Very true.</p>
<p>Usually, very top students from a top high school = successfully getting into a medical school if they choose that path.</p>
<p>In DS’s “sort of” competitive high school in a suburban area, the top 5 kids from every high school graduating class of roughly 600 students usually have no problem in getting into a (not necessarily a top one) medical school eventually. Some top 40 student (out of 600 students) could also get into a medical school.</p>
<p>DS once said that the competition in his premed class is mostly a competition between top students who were graduated from competitive high schools who get into the college (at least partly) because of their academic merit, rather than other factors/merits. It may not be politically correct to say this: A much higher percentage of URM premeds struggled in these classes, just because their high school preparation tend to be weaker. However, middle-class immigrants who happen to have the same race as URM’s tend to be doing just fine; they have received very good education in their originating country. It is the secondary education in some poor US neighborhood that does not prepare these URMs well academically.</p>
<p>If you are a high schooler now, work on your academic strength. If you happen to be in the very competitive high school in your city and are in the top couple of percents of your high school graduating class, you usually will have no problem if you choose this path (unless you are particularly weak in science and/or reading – in this case, you are probably not in the top couple of percents in your high school graduating class.)</p>
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<p>Exactly. And that is true for a couple of reasons, but first and foremost is mcat score (which arguably is more important than gpa for scoring an interview). Since “top colleges” by definition, corner the market on top testers (SAT/ACT), their students will then to do well on the mcat, and better than non-top colleges.</p>
<p>Since we’re in a lull between football games, I’ll play. My top 3:</p>
<p>Yale (second highest mean gpa & second best testers)
Harvard (top xx mean gpa & #1 testers)
Brown (#1 mean gpa by far, top ~10 testers, and PLME, which is guaranteed)</p>
<p>All three have wealthy student bodies, so they can work on ECs and not in the cafeteria for money to pay tuition. All three have plenty of endowment money to spend on student activities/research opportunities.</p>
<p>bluebayou, I notice your location is southern California so you must know the top colleges in California better than most CCers. Why do you think all of your 3 top picks are on the east coast and none is on the west coast? What is not so great about Stanford and UCLA for premeds (since we CCers have had enough “bash sessions” about Cal in the past, let’s talk about UCLA this time, which is like in your “backyard” :))</p>
<p>If what you said is true, many poor California kids need to fly red eyes to the other coast for 4 years!</p>
<p>For a record, when DS was applying to colleges many years ago, we did discourage him from applying to colleges in California (Hmm…with the exception of Pomona, and he did get in there but did not go there in the end.) But we could not clearly spell out all the reasons back then.</p>
<p>BTW, I recently heard UCLA medical school is the “happy medical school” on the west coast.</p>
<p>mcat:</p>
<p>The OP’s question is what undergrads have the highest admission %'s into med school.<br>
My rationale (if that is a fair word for my pure speculation) for my top 3 is in parentheses. </p>
<p>I would put Stanford (and its gap inflation) a notch or two lower bcos it has a strong engineering program, so some of the same courses premeds take will be stocked full of geeks who live and sleep (premed) physical sciences. OTOH, S has big time D1 sports for those who are interested.</p>
<p>UCLA has as many gunners as Cal. But test scores are not a high priority for admissions to the UCs in general, so UC mcat scores will, on average, be much lower than HYS. Lower mcat scores = lower professional school admissions. Sure, LA has a med school on campus, but a gazillion kids trying to earn a coveted research spot. Unlike the wealthy Ivies, which have research jobs for practically anyone that wants one, at UC the opportunities are extremely limited (in comparison). Moreover, UC advising is really poor, at best. </p>
<p>Just my opinion, which I’m sure others will disagree…</p>
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This is an interesting point.</p>
<p>This reminds me of my personal experience: A generation ago, I was at one of the UC graduate schools. For some “hot” engineering class, there were almost twice as many students than the spots available due to the limited workstation resources. The professor then set up a rule: Whoever has a higher accumulated GPA could take the course. The result: the majority of students in that class were graduate students even though the class was designed mostly for UG students. (The GPA of graduate students tend to be higher – this is the reason why graduate GPA carries very little weight for medical school admission.)</p>
<p>I bet these UG students wish there were not so many graduate students there. They could care less about how strong their engineering program is if they have a hard time to take the courses or to join a research group because of having so many graduate students there to compete for the opportunity. Also, the professors may pay more attention to graduate students than UG students because, unlike UG students, some of these graduate students could help the the professor more because they do not have to take many classes.</p>
<p>Actually, I heard that Stanford UG engineering is not that great exactly because their graduate-level engineering program is so strong!</p>
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<p>I have a different take. In a typical MA/Phd program, anything below a B- is essentially a fail and must be repeated. Thus, the ‘curve’ for grad courses is much higher than for undergrad. C’s just don’t exist. like F’s don’t exist at Stanford.</p>
<p>The general answer to OP question is the UG’s that heavily pre-select potential Med. School applicants. So, if pre-med committe indicate to certain people that they should not think about applying, then this UG will have higher % of acceptances.</p>