<p>Basically, colleges, esp. in a duke article I read a while back say that 1/3 of their lowest applications are tossed out after the first read. What would that take? Just poor stats? because the entire process is holistic, right? </p>
<p>Or do they mean they throw out SUPER underqualified people with like 2.0 GPAs and 1500SATs? </p>
<p>What's a fatal flaw in an app to the hypercompetitive schools?</p>
<p>I wonder the same thing. Is having 5 B’s and a C and only being in the top 15% of your class (not top 10) suffice to your being deemed academically unqualified?</p>
<p>I have no idea! Hmmm any ideas guys?</p>
<p>Well, being a convicted felon might work.</p>
<p>Yeah very funny.</p>
<p>For unhooked candidates, having an SAT score below 1800 or an unweighted GPA below 3.0 would probably do it.</p>
<p>estrat1 is serious.</p>
<p>There are kids who apply to top schools with criminal records. When we are 17…we can get arrested and stuff and that stays on the record. At top schools, that’s 99% an automatic rejection even if you are the top student in wherever you go. </p>
<p>Also, suspensions and getting in trouble with school administrators is also a big No No.</p>
<p>There were a couple of applicants with SAT score below 1800 accepted at Harvard last year. So, you never know. :)</p>
<p>Hmmm so is that what they mean by 1/3 of the pool is deemed unqualified, 5% is deemed automatic, and then the rest is debated upon my the admissions committee?</p>
<p>1/3 of the pool can’t be convicted felons! =D</p>
<p>Here’s the article I think spiralcloud is talking about: [Duke</a> Magazine-Admissions 101-January/February 2006](<a href=“Duke Mag”>Duke Mag)</p>
<p>This is from the article:
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<p>like silverturtle said, it’s easy for an unhooked applicant to be rejected with <1800 SAT score or 3.0 UW GPA. I seriously doubt that a college like Duke would holistically review 20,000+ applications, but that doesn’t mean you have to have a 2300+ to be accepted or considered.</p>
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I think this is very rare. But I remember seeing a thread where [an</a> applicant was accepted to Stanford with a 1700](<a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/stanford-university/433076-accepted-1700-sat-score.html]an”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/stanford-university/433076-accepted-1700-sat-score.html), but he was a hooked applicant.</p>
<p>^Harambee… I don’t that 1700 applicant’s race was the primary decision factor. I got dizzy reading all the things he did and has done. If anything, that was the deciding factor in his acceptance. He was active in his community and that is what Stanford was looking for. Test scores can only mean so much.</p>
<p>I think that’s a ■■■■■ honestly</p>
<p>ok. this is a rejected person(this and below)!!!:</p>
<p>race: white/black/hispanic/asian, honestly doesn’t matter with these stats*
sat score: 2000 and below
gpa: doesn’t matter
state: doesn’t matter
ec: your typical ecs, ex: community service, nhs, blah.</p>
<p>exceptions: 1. you are a quadruplet from nigeria(disregard that, cuz even those quads had better scores and ECs than that), 2. your daddy helped the school’s endowment, 3. you are the future captain of Yale’s soccer team. 4. you are a weird savant(ex: a westinghouse scholar) but can’t seem to function in other areas
5. no more exceptions. </p>
<p>and that person will be rejected without a second glance. yale has an 8% admission rate, and they need to be BLUNT. i’d say a big majority of applicants look like this. plus or minus 100 pts on the SAT</p>
<p>@Seeme25 - I’m not trying to say that his race was the primary decision factor. I believe Stanford reviews applicants holistically and is not as numbers driven as other top colleges. I’m just saying that it’s rare to find applicants who were accepted at colleges like Stanford with 1700s, it’s even more rare to find unhooked applicants accepted with 1700s.</p>
<p>I think that this is the lowest SAT score I seen which was accepted at ED at YALE - <a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/yale-university/820167-official-yale-2014-scea-results-thread-13.html#post1063720025[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/yale-university/820167-official-yale-2014-scea-results-thread-13.html#post1063720025</a> .</p>
<p>GPA matters much much more than test scores pigs. It says on Yale’s site that they may tolerate a student with a high GPA and low test scores, but they will never tolerate a student with a low GPA and high test scores. I wonder how many applicants get in with a 3.75 GPA (esp. with all their bad grades coming in fresh/soph year) or lower.</p>
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Seriously, be careful, it’s likely that that person is ■■■■■■■■ and lying. He/she has 2 posts, and honestly if he/she got accepted to YALE! he/she would post wayyyy earlier than that due to the excitement. there were a couple of ■■■■■ posts in the last few results</p>
<p>YES, GPA matters. BUT realize that you guys will have alot alot alot of competition from kids who got 2300+(and 2400s <em>ahem</em>) , 4.0UW GPA, national merit, many ECs that were deferred in the early round and still coming in. and these kids are essentially, the “unhooked”,academic-superstars that will take your spot</p>
<p>Yes? And that matters why? The reasoning behind the usage of SAT scores and grades in the college admissions process is to predict if you will be able to handle the workload of an institution, nothing more. You don’t find the next Kant, the next Einstein, etc. by accepting the people with 4.0’s, 2400’s, etc. You don’t build a healthy student body by just admitting the students with 2400’s. Once you’re past a certain point with numbers, the point where a student is deemed academically qualified to be able to survive the workload of an institution, it comes down to them forming a well-rounded class and perhaps even picking out who they think may one day make a huge impact in the world.</p>
<p>It’s yale. they are admitting future presidents here. if you’re a typical high schooler who lives life, prepare to be rejected. </p>
<p>and i forgot another exception: 5. EXTREME musical/artistic talent</p>
<p>and of course, asians will never make an impact on the world, so they are mostly rejected. hah.</p>