<p>Obviously because bars don’t serve alcohol to underage drinkers. The few bars that do usually quickly get their licenses revoked and are in fact shut down. And the way these violator bars are sometimes caught in their criminal behavior is the cops run sting operations on them. </p>
<p>So that brings us back to what started this whole debate - that frats don’t want to be held to even the same low standard as bars and pool halls. They want the law to be ignored and to permitted to continue with their criminal behavior. Sorry, but that’s just wrong.</p>
<p>Next time you drive 5 miles an hour over the speed limit remember that you want the law to be ignored and to be permitted to continue with your “criminal” behavior.</p>
<p>Question for all the D students: What makes you think that Pres. Kim did not have prior knowledge and tacitly concur/support the sting actions of the Hanover Police?</p>
<p>When I was in college, the local police were not allowed on campus unless they received permission. Or at least that was our understanding. Which meant that student smoking pot in their rooms had no fear of being busted. Are the frat houses at D considered to be “on campus”?</p>
<p>Dunno about the legal zoning of Webster Street, but regardless, like all college communities, I’m sure that Dartmouth’s own security (S&S) has a symbiotic/mutualism relationship with H-Po. But my broader question was a reality check to the (naive?) students. IMO, from a practical/political matter, Hanover Police would not, I repeat not, take such action without the knowledge of the College Admin. Not in a small town. Not with the town’s biggest employer. Not when the college may have to act as loco parentis for those underage. Not with the inter-related security forces (S&S+H-Po). Not a couple of doors down from where the Prez himself sleeps. …</p>
<p>Thus, I had to chuckle when I read: “I personally feel as if the college will combat this through the proper channels…” and similar views in The Dartmouth Online.</p>
<p>Hanover Police will delay implementation of its alcohol law compliance check policy announced last week, pending discussions with the College and student groups, Hanover Police Chief Nicholas Giaccone announced in a press release Wednesday.</p>
<p>^^Yay! The frat world is safe for underage drinking once again. Let’s celebrate. Drinks on the house!</p>
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<p>If the Hanover police set up a speed trap to catch speeding motorists (which I’ve seen them do), and they gave me a ticket for driving 5 mph over the speed limit, I probably wouldn’t enjoy paying the fine. But I sure wouldn’t argue that I didn’t do anything wrong. Nor would I whine that everybody speeds everywhere so therefore it’s okay for me to do it too. What I certainly would do is drive within the speed limit next time. Probably most of my friends who heard about the ticket would slow down too. That’s the way law enforcement works.</p>
<p>My take on the social atmosphere of fraternities is that, like the Prohibition era, stricter laws may do nothing to curb the demand. Perhaps the best way to move forward is to teach safer drinking habits and prevent the abuse of alcohol rather than the use of alcohol.</p>
<p>I think the students’ fears are well-founded. I go to a school with a large Greek scene (though not as large as Dartmouth’s), but it is also pretty closed. We can’t let random people into our parties because of alcohol law enforcement agents. You either are very good friends with a brother and they let you in (unusual) or you’re an attractive girl, or you simply wont get into a Greek party on campus. And the town’s ‘cracking-down’ on underage drinking contributes to this.</p>
<p>I just read Dartmouth’s budget plan for the $100 million. Does this mean they are not increasing class size, as they’ve thought about or are they still considering it?</p>
<p>Well it didn’t seem to be part of the bullet points provided on the budget announcement mailed out. However, they may still be considering it. It would seem as if they do not raise it for at least this year the RD acceptance rate will be a bit brutal (since they already accepted more for the ED round).</p>