<p>So, DartmouthAlum, did you read the article before you tossed your poison all over this journal? (I tend to doubt it. It is always easier for the intolerant Left to vomit venom that to reason calmly.) </p>
<p>Do you two know anything about the history of the Dartmouth Review? It is a vile one. It has “outed” gays against their wishes; promoted the “Indian” symbol against the wishes of the College and Native Americans; made fun of the way African Americans talk; and published passages from Hitler’s Mein Kampf. It is indefensible, yesterday, today and forever. Anyone associating themselves with such a disgraced and tarnished medium ought to heave their head - and their heart - examined. Indeed, the “Review” is a large part of what has made Dartmouth so inhospitable to huge numbers of minority, female and other students over the decades. Those who might defend it allow volumes to be spoken about them.</p>
<p>Just when this thread was starting to take a more balanced and diversified tone, somebody had to bring up the “Review.” It is ghastly, and helps poison the well at the College. If you’re a prospective student who’s not a sadistic reactionary, why go to a college where you have to put up with such poison?</p>
<p>So, you haven’t read the article, DartmouthAlum, have you? Why read it when you can howl in the darkness, huh? So…read the article and then share your thoughts on it in a calm voice, if humanly possible.This will be a healthy exercise for you.</p>
<p>I looked at the article. But the medium is a noxious one. With the “Review’s” history - Mein Kampf quotes in the masthead; involuntarily outing gay students; making fun of African American English; demeaning Native Americans - who but a sadist would associate with it? It’s toxic, and does awful harm to Dartmouth. On and off again over the decades, that “newspaper” has plunged Dartmouth into virtual campus civil war. It ratchets up tensions, is aggressive towards the defenseless, and contributes to a hostile and intellectually puerile climate on campus. </p>
<p>I have to say that I was surprised to see an article in the Dartmouth Review praising Robert Kennedy. 
But is was a constructive article nontheless. Apparently there are reasonable people even at the DR.</p>
<p>Toombs, please refrain from political opprobrium. I’m sure you don’t want to hear my remarks about the right wing fringe.:)</p>
<p>Ah, DartAlum, you “looked at the article.” Did you read it? Did you consider its arguments? No. You prefer to engage in an ad hominem attack. As I have said before, I seriously question whether you even went to Dartmouth. If you did, I think you may have failed to benefit from it. </p>
<p>‘The one event in [Dartmouth College President James O.] Freedman’s presidency that garnered the most press was the so-called “Hitler Quote” scandal of The Dartmouth Review. A member of the staff of the controversial conservative weekly paper inserted a quote from Mein Kampf into the masthead of one edition of the paper. This edition of the Review was dated on Yom Kippor, the holiest day in the Jewish year. In the same edition, the paper also printed a drawing of Freedman as Hitler.’</p>
<p>Supporters and contributors to that loathsome publication have very little dignity, and quite dirty hands.</p>
<p>That loathsome medium is not conservative, but flat out sadistic.</p>
<p>@AboutTheSame DartmouthAlum keeps talking about Dartmouth and Dartmouth institutions…and you keep talking about him…which leads him to talk more about Dartmouth. For those interested in creating positive PR for Dartmouth, I am not sure this is a winning strategy.</p>
<p>I have no connection to Dartmouth, but am interested as an alum of another Ivy. DartmouthAlum’s posts have alerted me to things I had not been aware of before. </p>
<p>I don’t have a connection to Dartmouth, but I do have a high school senior who is very interested and has applied. I’ve found the discussions here and elsewhere about some of what is happening at the school to be generally enlightening – yes, even those discussions in which DartmouthAlum has participated. But citing the Dartmouth Review? I trust you are young because anyone who was in college almost anywhere from the mid-'80’s to the mid-90’s knows that the DR is, at best, biased and worthless. And, yeah, I read the article.</p>
<p>@fenwaypark: Excellent point. I periodically make a resolution to ignore him. I have a poor track record at keeping my resolutions. </p>
<p>Consolation, there is a Left and a Right. There is also an intolerant Left and an intolerant Right. The problem when discussing issues is not so much whether someone is on the Left or the Right, but whether or not he/she is intolerant. I have a problem with intolerance, not Left or Right. I hope you have the same problem. If you, however, somehow think that the "Left "and the “intolerant Left” (as well as the “Right” and the “intolerant Right”) are the same or somehow redundant, then that is your problem. I fear such may be the case. If so, Consolation, please refrain from political opprobium.</p>
<p>SXSW123, the matter I introduced to this discussion was a recent article published in the “Dartmouth Review”, not the Review itself. I found the article most interesting, quite well written (with insight and verve), and on point to the subject raised by this thread. I’m gald to know that others on this thread have read it and found it of high quality. I’m glad to hear that you have read it too. I hope that you found it enlightening. As for where it was printed, such may be of some interest to some but irrelevant to many. If, however, you and DartmouthAlum wish to snarl at “TDR”, so be it. The article still stands on its own merits. </p>
<p>From a current Dartmouth undergraduate, in today’s student newspaper:</p>
<p>“There is a veritable boatload of evidence that Dartmouth represents a hostile environment for certain communities. But mainstream Dartmouth continues to dismiss this evidence out of hand. Those who hold the presiding opinion apparently consider themselves arbiters of correctness.” </p>
<p><a href=“http://thedartmouth.com/2014/02/28/opinion/rothfeld-downright-denial”>http://thedartmouth.com/2014/02/28/opinion/rothfeld-downright-denial</a></p>
<p>And you can read opinion pieces in the same paper in which people from the supposedly uncomfortable groups say they are NOT uncomfortable. I’ve posted some before. </p>
<p>I really don’t understand why this thread is still going on; OP already arrived at the conclusions; it’s really hard to derive more constructive communications or suggestions for Dartmouth, potential applicants and their parents, or those people trapped by hurted feelings. </p>
<p>I have no connections to Dartmouth but I cannot bear to see a stream of criticism against Dartmouth as another way of “loving”. Also, I am embarrassed and felt abused a little bit by some arguments appealing to fear and pity and circumstantial ad hominem.</p>
<p>Some people might be hurt from the experiences at Dartmouth. I am also very sympathetic for the emotions those people felt, but I believe [some parts of the causes of problems are mixed up with immaturity or bias of students at that age, regardless of any specific college setting, and] this kind of communications are not helpful for managing them, even though we assume that they are all from Dartmouth-specific setting. Moreover, I believe their hatred toward Dartmouth is just another expression of “LOVE”. </p>
<p>The university and students are now identifying the problems and finding solutions. I believe it’s better to wait with EQUANIMITY and CONFIDENCE. Dartmouth CAN do that WITHOUT THIS THREAD. </p>
<p>Finally, possible errors from insufficient or wrong information are all mine. </p>
<p>No. If they bothered to apply, I doubt the yield will suffer. Actually, I’d predict an increase. Then again, I tend to be a poor judge of human nature. </p>
<p>Bloomberg: “Although a majority of college students drink, abusive drinking is far more prevalent in fraternities.” </p>
<p><a href=“http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2014-01-07/dean-wormer-s-favorite-editorial”>http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2014-01-07/dean-wormer-s-favorite-editorial</a></p>
<p>“A female undergraduate has reported to the Hanover Police that she was sexually
assaulted by an identified male undergraduate on March 2, 2014 in a student
residential facility located on the south east side of the campus. Hanover
Police are actively investigating the incident. Safety and Security is
assisting Hanover Police.”</p>
<p>Thank you DA for your consistent and unbridled nuclear attack on Dartmouth in your “mission” to tell potential students not to attend Dartmouth. I’ve been on CC for 4 years, made a lot of friends, and basically enjoyed 99% of my time here, and I have to say DA, you are the most negative personality I have ever encountered on any forum. I’ve suggested this before, but if you are so concerned about Dartmouth, you really ought to contact the school and try to be part of the solution, or as others have suggested, seek help before you hurt yourself. President Hanlon has a lot to do, and I am certain he and others there are addressing this, along with numerous other issues and I am sure he would love to hear from you. Please contact him and volunteer, but please do something positive with your time. </p>
<p>And if you really want to help potential students, you might also inform them not go to an Ivy League college at all because sexual assault also happens at those colleges even without Frats. Please read below:</p>
<p><a href=“http://dailyprincetonian.com/news/2013/11/colleges-betray-victims-of-rape-and-sexual-assault-by-failing-to-punish-perpetrators-david-lisak-says/”>http://dailyprincetonian.com/news/2013/11/colleges-betray-victims-of-rape-and-sexual-assault-by-failing-to-punish-perpetrators-david-lisak-says/</a></p>
<p><a href=“The Harvard Crimson”>http://www.thecrimson.com/article/2013/3/7/sexual-assault-at-harvard/</a></p>
<p><a href=“Facing Complaints, Columbia’s President Calls for Transparency in Assault Inquiries - The New York Times”>http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/30/nyregion/facing-complaints-columbias-president-calls-for-transparency-in-assault-inquiries.html</a></p>
<p>And surprise, it happens at public universities too!</p>
<p><a href=“UCLA student arrested on suspicion of sexual assault | UCLA”>UCLA student arrested on suspicion of sexual assault | UCLA;
<p>and not to mention, it happens in the real world:</p>
<p><a href=“http://www.chicagotribune.com/topic/crime-law-justice/crime/sexual-assault/02001005.topic”>Topic Galleries - Chicago Tribune;
<p>It is sad, disgusting and flat out criminal. Unfortunately it happens at college. So as a parent of a son and daughter, we discussed the issues, discussed awareness and friendship, and fortunately, both had a great college experience. Yes, even at Dartmouth. Unfortunately, It could still happen to my D, as a Medical student who walks home at night in a big city, or even to my wife as she visits the theater tonight. So to all of you, I ask the question, will the world be a better place without Dartmouth? I don’t think so. If you are a prospective student, will your world be better if you don’t attend Dartmouth? Maybe. But maybe you might enjoy your time there and get a great education. Or you could wind up bitter and resentful, and lurk on this site trying to counter everyone’s positive input and turn it into mush…! </p>
<p>Potential students, I would still encourage you to go to college, and yes, even Dartmouth. And, when you are in college, be safe, smart and make the best of it. If you don’t like the school you attend, consider transferring to a different school. You don’t want to end up, well, you know…</p>