<p>86 years is new by some University standards, but certainly not <em>new</em></p>
<p>They be BORROWING the money!!! :eek: I ain’t impressed. And as to this:
Forbes ranks High Point at 508 on the list. I don’t see any logic to their ranking strategies, but they have 507 colleges rated better than High Point… I’m not sure how many colleges there are in the great USA, but number 508 doesn’t seem to give one many bragging rights…</p>
<p>Well, 7000 higher education institutions in the US.
508 / 7000 = 7.2%
Top 10% isn’t bad.</p>
<p>I am the dad of a sophomore at HPU and this is very real. Check your facts before posting as High Point will not borrow to fund this growth. The school’s revenues are increasing with the growth in enrollment, improvement in retention and the attraction of major donors who believe in the vision. Visit yourself and you will be a believer.</p>
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<p>And this “vision” would be what, exactly?</p>
<p>FYI…I did not say that High Point, Elon and Davidson were EQUAL, what I said was, “High Point, Elon, Davidson…which ever she chooses is alright with me, because I know that at the end of the day, they are all capable of getting her to where she wants to go”. And I still believe that a strong, self motivated student can be successful as an HPU graduate.</p>
<p>I also happen to agree with fallenchemist that the quality of your peers is what determines how challenging academics will be. </p>
<p>Again, I fully support my D decision to attend the college of her choice.</p>
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<p>in the most recent year for which i could find data (07-08), high point increased its debt load by $41.4 million (nearly $12,000 per fte student) and received only $10.6 million in contributions. total university revenues were only $77.5 million… and in essence much less than that as financial aid expenditures are being added to revenues and then subtracted out as expenses (even though that money doesnt really exist). </p>
<p>thus, i dont think there is any reason for anyone to NOT be skeptical of a $2.1 billion growth plan not financed by extraordinary levels of debt. that said, if you have better facts, id like to see them.</p>
<p>I hope someone will step in and explain the “vision”. I don’t have a horse in this race, but I really would like to know what it is about this relatively unknown college that’s inspiring someone to donate huge sums of money.</p>
<p>Always remember that GOOGLE is your friend. I googled “High Point Univeristy” donor and one of the first hits was a history of donors and the university. [High</a> Point University](<a href=“http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:VvUJx1QWnBcJ:www.universityvisitorsnetwork.com/colleges/High-Point-University+“high+point+university”+donor&cd=5&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us]High”>http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:VvUJx1QWnBcJ:www.universityvisitorsnetwork.com/colleges/High-Point-University+“high+point+university”+donor&cd=5&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us)</p>
<p>at the end, the major donor is clearly identified:</p>
<p>"On October 9, 1991, by the action of the Board of Trustees, the name of High Point College was changed to High Point University to reflect post-graduate degree programs. The campus saw expansion of the Millis Athletic/Convocation Center in late 1992 to provide facilities for convocations, physical education, athletic, and health activities. Other notable additions to the campus include an addition to the Haworth Hall of Science and the Hayworth Fine Arts Center, a domed structure with a Tuscan portico designed in consultation with London-based architect Christopher Smallwood. By 2004, the University’s endowment increased to $40 million. </p>
<p>In 2004, President Martinson became the university’s first chancellor, an office he still holds despite his retirement from High Point University’s presidency on January 1, 2005. Martinson’s presidential successor, Nido Qubein, announced a US$60 million building and campus expansion campaign. This campaign was increased to $110 million after Qubein raised $20 million in his first few months of leadership. </p>
<p>A major donation from community activist and philanthropist David Hayworth to High Point University brings total contributions from David Hayworth and his late brother Charles to $25 million. "</p>
<p>So this begs the question – who is David Hayworth and what motivated him and his late brother Charles to donate over $25 million to HPU over the years?</p>
<p>I think I’ll google “David Hayworth” to see if that answer will quickly appear… it usually does.</p>
<p><strong><em>edit</em></strong> – OK, found this quickly by googling: <a href=“http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._D._Hayworth[/url]”>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._D._Hayworth</a></p>
<p>As he was listed as being born in High Point, NC, I’m guessing this is the guy. Will further google to see if it is. See, that wasn’t so hard.</p>
<p>OK, try this: <a href=“http://www%5B/url%5D”>http://www</a>. ************** .com/NC/HPU_comments.html (take the spaces out… I added two spaces… it is the only way to get the website address from getting blocked) these are contemporaneous comments by current (and former) students, unedited.</p>
<p>looks like the web address got blocked anyway… let’s try this</p>
<p><a href=“http://www.s%5B/url%5D”>www.s</a> t u dents r e view.com//NC/HPU_comments.html </p>
<p>again, just take out all spaces when you paste this address into your browser.</p>
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<p>Oh, my google hit above is not correct. I’m suspecting it is a relative of the David Hayworth who is the major donor to HPU.</p>
<p>Here is the correct David and Charles, directly from HPU website: <a href=“http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:ocLDfMK7m28J:www.highpoint.edu/news_events/article.cfm%3FArticleID%3D742+“high+point+university”+donor+charles+Hayworth&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us[/url]”>http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:ocLDfMK7m28J:www.highpoint.edu/news_events/article.cfm%3FArticleID%3D742+“high+point+university”+donor+charles+Hayworth&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us</a> excerpt here:</p>
<p>"Charles and David Hayworth owned a number of High Point businesses including Hayworth Roll & Panel Company, Clarenden Industries, Alma Desk Company and Myrtle Desk Company. David Hayworth was President & CEO of Alma Desk Company when the companies were sold in 1991. Charles Hayworth passed away in 1994. </p>
<p>David Hayworth is an active philanthropist in High Point and across the state, contributing generously to dozens of organizations including the North Carolina Museum of Art, United Way of America, High Point Regional Health Systems, Wesley Memorial United Methodist Church, UNC in Chapel Hill, Victory Junction Gang Camp, Family Service of the Piedmont, and the NC School of the Arts. He has been widely recognized by the High Point Community Foundation as its Philanthropist of the Year in 2005, and by the United Way of America as Chairman of the Alexis de’ Tocqueville Society and a member of the Million Dollar Roundtable in 2004."</p>
<p>DunninLA, are you trying to sound that condescending, or is something being lost between your brain and keyboard?</p>
<p>mantori: 
it just comes naturally.</p>
<p>The School of Business is NOT AACSP-accredited and is NOT in a position to be AACSP-accredited.</p>
<p>The school HAS ZERO Ph.D.s in Accounting on their faculty. The School of Business “Dean” has a Ph.D. in Business Education, NOT a a content area such as Accounting, Management, Marketing, I.T. (This “Dean” is barely employable because he holds this degree of this degree. If he is dismissed, he probably will not be able to get a job at a community college.)</p>
<p>The Chair of the Accounting program has an MBA, his highest level of education.</p>
<p>The School of Business IS accredited by ACBSP, the same body that accredits the University of Phoenix online.</p>
<p>Beware.</p>
<p>I’ve read most of this forum and this matter of accreditation has captured my attention as I have a son very interested in studying business at HPU in 2014. So, I contacted the dean of the business school to ask why they are not accredited and if they plan to be? Here is his response, he replied within one hour: </p>
<p>“That is correct. We are members of AACSB but not accredited. AACSB standards have a significant focus on research. We are an applied, practical, teaching-oriented business program. So, our culture has not meshed with AACSB standards. If you or your son would like to talk about our business program, please feel free to give me a call. Alternatively, if you would like to visit with me, we can set up a time to meet. In the meantime, if I can answer any additional questions, please let me know.”</p>
<p>I myself have an MBA from Winthrop with an undergraduate degree from Belmont Abbey. I was curious and looked these schools up on the AACSB website. Winthrop is accredited and the Abbey is not. I feel I got an excellent education at Belmont Abbey in a small Catholic setting (I’m not Catholic) and Winthrop accepted me never asking about AACSB. Now this was 20 years ago, but I must say the I always fit in better in the small college setting and never fit in well in Winthrops larger, less personal classrooms, with large classes frequently taught by assistants. My son just happens to be just like Dad.</p>
<p>That being said, while I have concerns about the lack of accreditation I also appreciate the honest and fast response from the Dean. My son is has close to a 4.0GPA, good test grades, lots of community service and is a tennis player. He knows he wants to study business at a smaller school and is also interested in Elon, which we also visited. He is shy and quite and doesn’t make friends quickly, so I want him to feel comfortable where ever he decides to go because I can’t see him succeeding at any college if he didn’t fit in. I appreciate all the comments about “the right fit”, I’m not concerned about the comments here about the impressive ammentites. Yes, those are nice and the dorms are something he is concerned about as a kid who doesn’t party and not ready for a party college. He is most concerned about the library, dorms, and the school of business. He was delighted at the Mac computers and wall street ticker in the school of business and impressed by the board room. I could tell he would fit in pretty good at HPU or Elon after our visits to both. I was impressed that they offered free tutoring and are currently constructing a mega career center. </p>
<p>As a parent, the question is always for me how is he going to turn out when he gets of college? Will he be ready for the real world and have a compentent education that will serve him well in the business world? Any insights or advice on this topics are welcome!</p>
<p>@dave2014, have you checked out Winthrop for your son? Everything you mentioned about his needs/wants seems right in line with what Winthrop is doing today. Classes in the business program are taught by profs now, and are usually small. Go visit if you haven’t yet–I think you’ll be impressed.</p>