<p>I don't know, it's tough for me to browse these forums sometimes because it seems like most of the posters are such snobbish people. Snobbish HS students that think they're perfect, parents who think their kids are perfect, and people who think a state school bumper sticker should probably just say 'FAILURE'. </p>
<p>Where are the normal and down-to-earth people that also want an education?</p>
<p>^I don't know, but some (read: not all) of the parents on this forum are scaaareeeeeey. "OMG, is this a good list? We cut and pasted the USNWR's top 30 unis, and cut out the bottom half." -.- The worst part is when they're completely delusional, and there kid doesn't have the stats (or hooks to make up for it). UM, UNC, and other top publics won't keep you out of any jobs.</p>
<p>I am completely happy to be going to a state university. Not sure if it's even top 100 on those college lists, but it is #1 in the world for my major (Journalism), so it is better than the Ivy's for me. But I'm not going to lie, if I could have gotten into Harvard, Princeton, or Columbia, I would have taken it. And if I decide to go to Law School, rather than pursuing a journalism career after undergrad, my shortlist will look something like: Harvard, Princeton, Columbia, Georgetown, George Washington, Northwestern, and then have UT-Austin, UW-Madison, MU-Columbia all on my list as well, and then start narrowing the list down closer to the time I am getting to apply. (And for Law School, prestige and rankings matter quite a bit, unlike undergrad, although you still have to do good to make it matter).</p>
<p>Agree 100% though with the people on here (and there are a lot of them) who treat state universities like absolute crap. I only had one of the "top" schools (Northwestern) applied to, one art school (Columbia College - Chicago), and then the rest were state universities (one wasn't even the flagship, UW-Milwaukee). But then again, I'm going to be the first person in my family to go to a 4 year uni out of high school. I guess the expectations could be different coming form a family with a legacy of going to good-great universities.</p>
<p>I had a friend in High School, who got a B for a quarter, and his parents told him he wasn't good enough to be Chinese. So a lot of these kids may be this way form parental pressure....and then others are probably... just dousche bags.</p>
<p>While that was your last response to me, I would like to get the last word. </p>
<p>First of all, you did not touch any nerve. I acted exactly how anyone would with an good argument: stick to it. You did not stick to your argument and ended up changing your position from an extreme point (top schools are just as good as lesser schools) to a less extreme one (people can be happy at any school). I agree with your less extreme argument; therefore, the argument is over and that I proved my point.</p>
<p>Yet you also feel that I resorted to name calling. I merely pointed out all your contradictions within your argument. Like what they say, if you cannot stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen. If you are not going to back up what you say and are not willing to accept what other people have to say, refrain from making controversial assertions.</p>
<p>people who think getting into ivies is the only way to go are usually flabby-bodied and unattractive cause they think they are the just because they study 17 hours a day and have never seen the beautiful daylight...and have i mentioned a lot of them have never attracted the opposite gender...</p>
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people who think getting into ivies is the only way to go are usually flabby-bodied and unattractive cause they think they are the just because they study 17 hours a day and have never seen the beautiful daylight...and have i mentioned a lot of them have never attracted the opposite gender...
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<p>The vast majority of my classmates at Princeton are not like this.</p>
<p>lilian09 - all you have to do is become a regular on one of the forums [HS life for me, I'm a senior], and if you actually look at most of my posts, they're only like one line, such as the one I used in my first response to you. Plus when you can type 100wpm it doesn't take that long.</p>
<p>Btw I know many people who've been accepted to Ivy-league schools and NONE of them were fat or unattractive. Maybe they weren't the best looking person at my school, but you can't exactly help that. Besides, studying 17 hours a day? leaving 7 other hours for not studying? I'm at school for longer than 7 hours.</p>
<p>And my sn is not all that hard to decipher... it's in Latin. I'm not really surprised that you sound so jealous of Ivy-league students.</p>
<p>While I think it's stupid that some people group the 8 schools by saying, "I will only go to Ivies", it's just as bad as saying, "I will never go to any of the Ivies". A school is a school, the Ivies are separate schools. Just because it is an Ivy does not make it any better or worse than other top schools such as Duke or MIT. </p>
<p>I think you can find good looking and bad looking people at ANY school, Lilian09. That was one of the stupidest categorization ever and I sincerely hope that you were just joking.</p>
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While I think it's stupid that some people group the 8 schools by saying, "I will only go to Ivies", it's just as bad as saying, "I will never go to any of the Ivies".
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While I agree with you on most points, I'd just like to add this- I always said I'd never go to an ivy (but I could probably have gotten in to a bunch of them). Then again, I want to go into engineering, but I think Ithaca is a miserable place, I don't want to go to school in NYC, and the rest of the ivy's aren't really known for their programs.</p>
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<p>Princeton has a pretty good engineering program that you might consider. Of course, MIT and Stanford are better options if the quality of the program trumps all other considerations.</p>
<p>CC seems to have three types of people. Type As think that life is all about getting into one of the most prestigious schools. Type Bs think that everyone on CC, and everyone who applied to/attends any prestigious school is a Type A.</p>
<p>Type Cs are just trying to decide on and get into a college that they like, and are probably routinely offended by the A's and B's sweeping generalizations.</p>
<p>I actually think that most CCers are Type C, and that a lot of people are just way too invested in criticizing everyone else who posts to notice.</p>
<p>For my own part, I get a bit sick of the people who assume that everyone who goes to an Ivy just goes there because it's an Ivy and they're too stupid to see the merits of any other schools. There are good things about the Ivies, chief among them that each has its on distinct atmosphere that may be a perfect fit for the people who go there. I also am tired of being told that since I go to an Ivy, I think I'm better than everyone else. </p>
<p>People who go to state universities should not have to be ashamed that they don't go to Ivies. But Ivy students also shouldn't have to be ashamed that they don't go to state universities, and I think some of these posts often border dangerously close on trying to force that to be so.</p>
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You're three types are an interesting viewpoint. I'd just add that your Type A and B's tend more to be outliers. They seem more common because they're more verbal than others ("silent majority" idea of the Vietnam War era).</p>