<p>If applications are in by Thanksgiving, what sort of time frame do you have to work with? The applications went mostly to top law schools. By the way, I'm a parent and I am wanting to keep informed.</p>
<p>Depends on the school, when you went complete and how strong your application is.</p>
<p>my daughter applied this admission cycle too. As most of her applications were submitted in October, she took advantage of one EA deadline and should be getting a response any day. She also has one decision rendered- so that too should arrive in the mail any day. But in both instances, those applications were submitted in early October. She has one T-20 acceptance with $, so she has at least one very solid offer to consider. But that application was submitted in early October too. In the past, her stats should have been considered an auto-admit for a number of T-20 schools, but she hasn’t heard from a bunch of them yet. It does seem that the schools really may have been inundated with applications, and the whole admission cycle may be a bit more drawn out this year. Oh Joy!!</p>
<p>Following some of the law school websites (TLS and LSN), this looks like it may be a very competitive and long admission cycle for some. There seems to be a big jump in the number of applications received by the law schools, and they seem to be waiting until they get more applications in before they give final decisions. As an example, there has been a lot of deferred applicants at Cornell with stats in the range of 168/ 3.5. In past years, one would have expected a Cornell acceptance with those #'s. </p>
<p>My point is, it may be a very long cycle- and many applicants will not receive acceptances until January/February and if deferred or waitlisted, may not get acceptances until April through July.</p>
<p>but as flowerhead said- if the basic stats are real strong (170/3.6 or thereabouts) and you are looking for a T-14 acceptance, there should be a few acceptances coming soon if one targeted the appropriate schools (T7-14). I also think there is not too much action during the Xmas vacation- so things may get a bit quiet over the next few weeks and pick up again in mid-january.</p>
<p>good luck!</p>
<p>My son submitted his apps (to 10 of the T14) also just before Thanksgiving and he has heard back from just two schools so far. Most of the T14 send out acceptances in waves, so you can hear right away or it could be months. Over at the top law schools website, you can follow who is hearing from what school.</p>
<p>it totally depends. If you are obviously qualified or obviously not qualified, you’ll hear back faster than if you’re in the middle. So the fact that it takes a long time to hear back isn’t really an indication of anything except that you’re probably somewhere in the middle of their applicant pool.</p>
<p>A few years ago, I applied to 8 law schools, all by November 1. I was accepted at 4, waitlisted at 2, and rejected at 2. I heard from all the acceptances first, then all the waitlists, then the rejections.</p>
<p>stacy- i absolutely agree with you. If the numbers are solid, you should get a reply a bit faster than if you are in the middle of the applicant pool. But I really do think the schools may be a bit slower to respond this year to those that are in the “middle +” and would have been routinely admitted in past years. From what I’m reading, there really may be an influx of applications and it is just taking the admissions office a bit longer to respond to those just above median.</p>
<p>Just to kvell a bit- my kid just received her first two T-14 acceptances. I’ll only be specific about one- as I swore that the outcome of the rest of her cycle would remain a family matter.</p>
<p>as my d is a cornell grad, it should come as no surprise that she applied EA to cornell. In past years, her stats would make her a slam dunk for admittance as her lsat and gpa were at and above median. Following TLS website, EA applicants with similar #'s to my kid were getting deferred. To be honest, I was beginning to think a cornell acceptance may not be a sure thing for her either. Luckily- she got her acceptance notification yesterday.<br>
I think her Cornell connection helped a bit, as others with similar stats are getting their decision deferred until february/march.</p>
<p>so- as I said earlier— this may be a very long admission cycle for a lot of kids this year.</p>
<p>good luck - and wishing all cc law school applicants alot of good news next year!!
marny</p>
<p>Cornell Law is a weird school. I was also pretty much an auto-admit, I applied ED, and then I was deferred.</p>
<p>I sent an email reaffirming my interest in the school, and my corresponding desire to remain on the reserve list. Two weeks later, I was admitted.</p>
<p>Go figure.</p>
<p>You applied ED?</p>
<p>Sorry, I meant EA.</p>
<p>I don’t think cornell law is that weird. Honestly, I think alot of T-14 applicants apply to Cornell as their absolute safety and don’t really intend to enroll. Due to YP and other stats, Cornell may not offer an acceptance to some higher stat applicants unless they make the extra effort to show a real interrest in cornell by sending a LOCI or some additional info. And Cornell does have some programs and a good track record with NYC employers that make it a wonderful choice for some high stat applicants.
But lets face it, there are too many 170/3.6 applicants who would rather be at Mich-UVA or Duke than spend 3 years in Ithaca.<br>
I’m sure Cornell is very aware of that reality too.
My kid adored her time at Cornell- but 7 years in Ithaca?? She’ll think about it!!</p>
<p>Hi Marny,</p>
<p>Congrats to D. It is always great to know that you have somewhere to go. Now comes the hard part, comparing offers, working out the $ and the debate of $$ vs. rankings.</p>
<p>flowerhead: great story, thanks for sharing.</p>
<p>Congrats, marny. And, thank you for sharing your D’s journey. Go Big Red. I adore Ithaca. (But I’m guessing a certain citi-fied schools may still be on her radar.)</p>
<p>If Cornell suffers during recruiting, it’s not because of the location. They hold one interview week in New York City. Still, I know some NYC firms who chose not to attend.</p>
<p>Thanks everyone-
Yes I think the $ vs. ranking debate may take place in many households this spring.</p>
<p>flowerhead- I’m no expert, but I thought Cornell “biglaw” placement in NYC was pretty good when compared to schools like Duke-UVA and Mich. Of course there may be lots of changes in the NYC market as well as other cities due to present economic conditions.<br>
I think recruting ain’t what it used to be at many of the T-14 schools this year- but hopefully the economy will improve during the next few years.</p>
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<p>Almost certainly not. Though the various statistics might show them as neck and neck, or maybe with Cornell on top, the actual recruiting situation doesn’t bear this out. I’ve seen average GPA numbers of students taken from Cornell, Michigan, NYU, and Duke, and there is a clear favoritism for the latter schools against Cornell.</p>
<p>Flowerhead
I don’t follow recruiting patterns. That type of scrutiny might be over the top for a parent-- even me. Guess I’m just relying on info that appears in some news articles that have been posted on cc. I think one was a WSJ item, showing # of law grads by school recruited at Vault 50-100 etc firms. Based on articles like that, it seemed cornell held its own when compared to other T7-14. </p>
<p>As my own kid doesn’t seem too interested in the big law route, her ultimate choice may be based on factors which might differ from others making decisions on which law school to attend.
but thanks for the info.</p>
<p>just wanted to bump this up. I’m getting my info from TLS and not my kid. All I know from her is that she is still waiting to hear from 5 schools. I guess that’s an ok sign at this point cause she hasn’t been rejected from those T-14’s yet!!</p>
<p>it does seem to be a long-drawn out cycle. According to TLS Northwestern “promised” decisions within 8 weeks from 12/1 for those who applied before that date. But NW just put a slew of candidates “On Hold” and said their applications will be re-reviewed in march/april. So either NW was really inundated with applicants and they are unwilling to make commitments, or they are playing games and “testing” one’s commitment to the school to keep their stats and acceptance rate up.<br>
They seem to be asking kids to send a LOCI or something. I guess if the applicant was already accepted to Mich or UVA and really has no intention of going to NW, they probably won’t send any LOCI and in the end won’t get admitted to NW. This way the acceptance rate is not negatively affected. </p>
<p>I understand the game schools are playing- as applicants are routinely applying to 10-20 schools the law schools don’t want to drag down their #'s for USWNR ranking purposes.</p>
<p>my kid did get one waitlist letter from a T-20 school in another area of the country. But the letter stated that if this school was really her top choice, she should contact them ASAP and let them know her intention to accept an admittance if offered. My hunch is they thought she would probably not attend even if she was accepted. They were right in her instance.</p>
<p>I’m finding this all becoming a bit of a tiring game- but really all understandable as many law school applicants are applying to way too many schools. And there is too much importance given to USWNR as the schools are trying hard to keep their acceptance rate low by getting a sense of which candidates truly want to attend the school.</p>
<p>the cycle will soon be over. now it’s time to get serious about financial aid forms. Yippee!!</p>
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<p>Better get those forms in on the double. Grant aid goes quickly. I know it was all gone by March at Michigan in the year I applied.</p>
<p>thanks- the upcoming snowstorm may keep us housebound and give us the opportunity to work on the forms this week-end. </p>
<p>Need Access is a pip. They have separate “registration #'s” for applicant; parents, and separated/divorced parents. I guess this keeps all financial info private so ex-spouse can’t get current financial info on former spouse.</p>