When to apply in order to be considered a Junior transfer?

<p>Someone just made a related thread in another sub-forum that confused me. Sorry if this has been answered before.</p>

<p>People often say that applying to UC's as a junior transfer from a CCC gives more distance to your high school record, in that they'll look mostly at your college grades. But UC apps are due in November, which means even if you apply by the traditional second year, you'll only have a year's worth of grades for them to evaluate. In this situation, would you still count as a Junior transfer? Basically: Do they consider your class standing based on how many units you've acquired by the last spring of your 2nd year, or only by the time you apply in November? I assume it's the former...because if it's the latter wouldn't that mean many people with less than stellar high school grades would have to wait until the 3rd year before applying and ultimately take on far more than 60 units before transferring? </p>

<p>I mean...most people only have 30-something units by the time they apply in November...</p>

<p>Okay. When you apply you will be a junior transfer if you have completed 60 units prior to transfer. I think you have to have 60 units before you transfer but I’m not 100% sure on that (I did when I applied). Also in terms of the high school thing, I’m pretty sure if you go to a community college and transfer from there they will look at your college grades and not your high school grades. I know since I’m IGETC certified I don’t even have to send my high school transcripts to my school (which is good because I don’t even have any). Also I didn’t send in a high school transcript when I applied either.</p>

<p>To be sure with any of this stuff call up the admissions office of the school you want to transfer to (it’s the same for all UC’s so if I were you I’d just call up UCLA or UCB and see what they say). Don’t ask a counselor at your school because normally community college consolers pretty much know nothing.</p>

<p>Also, most people I know have A LOT more than 30 units when they apply. Most people I know that applied to UCs had between 40-70 units when they applied. UC’s standards are high. UCLA and UCB pretty much want students that will have completed all/most of their general education and a lot of major requirements before they apply. There is one guy I know who got into UCLA and only had 30 units when he applied but he had a lot of high school APs and was applying as a major that requires a low GPA. When they look at students they want to know they are admitting students that can follow through with the classes they promise to take in the spring and can get A’s in them.</p>

<p>UPDATE: Found this on the UCLA site:</p>

<p>"–You are a transfer student if you graduated from high school and enrolled in a regular session at any college or university since your high school graduation. You cannot disregard your college record and apply as a freshman.</p>

<p>–To be considered junior level you must have completed 60-86 semester units or 90-129 quarter units by the time you enter UCLA"</p>

<p>Also, as a transfer student you should TAG a school (can’t be UCLA or UCB) it’s worth the time and money if you fit the criteria for it.</p>

<p>Thanks for the reply.</p>

<p>I think you’re misunderstanding what I said. Because in your first post you say that you need 60 units before you transfer, which would mean by the spring semester of your second year (before you start at a UC).</p>

<p>But then later you say most applicants to UC’s had far more than 30 units by the time they apply. The application process is from November 1-30 which is before the Fall semester has even ended, and the spring semester hasn’t even begun. There’s almost no way to have 60 units by the time you apply if you only spend 2 years at a CC (there’s unit caps for each term). “By the time you apply” is different from “by the time you transfer”.</p>

<p>You need to have 60 units by the time you transfer. Like you said you apply a year before in November and most people have ~30 units. Keep in mind the UC’s don’t even read the transfer apps until ~Feb as they read Freshman apps first. In January they’ll ask you to submit your second year fall grades and planned classes for spring. So you’ll have ~45 units at this point when the UC’s read your apps and they’ll look at the planned classes to see if you make 60+. Then they’ll want your transcripts in the summer to make sure you’re golden.</p>

<p>@ slidan: it’s entirely possible to have 60 units at the end of two years at a CC–I did that, and I was taking the maximum number of units allowed at my former CC, which was 19 units. In fact, it’s possible to get 60 units done in a year too–my roommate did just that, and what helped her was that she had taken some classes at her community college when she was in high school and also got some classes out of the way thanks to AP scores.</p>

<p>Definitely it’s possible after 2 years, that’s the standard. You’re misunderstanding what I said. Having 60 units by the end of 2 years is TOTALLY different from having 60 units by the time you apply (which is in November of the 2nd year), when you have only 1 year under your belt. I must not be expressing myself clearly or something…</p>

<p>And yes, as you said it’s even possible to do it in 1 year but that’s a rare occurrence, not the commonplace route. </p>

<p>Thanks to Jdom24 for clarifying it for me, you answered exactly what I was asking - which was - do UC’s expect you to have 60 units by the time you leave the CC or by the time you apply in November, and it’s evidently the former.</p>