<p>Senior year at Penn
Psych major
Good ECs and summer internships
gpa 3.96
LSAT 169</p>
<p>Mostly interested in east coast and midwest.</p>
<p>Just some guesses, since that is all you can really expect:
Georgetown
NYU
UCLA
UCB Boalt
U Texas
Cornell
U Michigan</p>
<p>But of course you have the possibility of getting into any T14 school. Good luck!</p>
<p>run your numbers through LSAC Data search (lsat & Gpa)</p>
<p>Look at other people's stats at (click on view schools then select a school):</p>
<p>you can try this one too</p>
<p>Penn's career center publishes statistics you may find of interest on its web site: <a href="http://www.vpul.upenn.edu/careerservices/gradprof/law/law_stats.htm%5B/url%5D">http://www.vpul.upenn.edu/careerservices/gradprof/law/law_stats.htm</a></p>
<p>They may have more detailed information (GPAs and LSAT scores of successful candidates from Penn at various law schools) available at to students on-site. It's worth a visit.</p>
<p>what ru guys saying</p>
<p>Penn's own law school has an LSAT average of 168-169. This person is definetely worthy of getitng into Penn, NYU, and a few others in this ball park. Unfortunately for you, a 170 would have probably sealed the deal on your acceptance to these places.</p>
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<p>Penn's own law school has an LSAT average of 168-169.
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<p>Keep in mind that it is extremely difficult for students to be accepted in a law school where they fall in the 25th-100th percentile, since they need to provide a reason for why they must be accepted. The shoe-ins are usually those who are in the top 25th percentile. I think the schools adumbrated are schools in which the applicant falls in the top 25h percentile, but I could be incorrect with regards to the intention of the actual listing of those schools.</p>
<p>I guess I don't really see how these data can be used with respect to my admission chances; they basically give a range that essentially says that I have a chance, but not really how much of a chance, except for the LSAC data, which frankly, I do not understand since it says, for example, that I have a better chance at NYU than at Penn, etc.</p>
<p>So, I guess I am asking: at which T14 schools do I have a good shot, a decent shot, and a long-shot?</p>
<p>I doubt that anyone who regularly posts to this board has any more information than you now have to answer your question accurately.</p>
<p>You have a shot at any of the law schools previously mentioned. No one is ever guaranteed admission to any particular law school, even with perfect grades and LSAT scores.</p>
<p>Congrats, roadtested. I really want to be able to get admission numbers like that in four years.</p>
<p>Yes, that GPA is crazy!</p>
<p>Some advice that was VITAL to me when I started (a different) application process - do NOT listen to nspeds or let his negativity get you down.</p>
<p>I don't think you'd be wasting your money applying to any school in the country. At places below the top 14, you're very likely to get in and may get merit aid.<br>
Within the top 14, it's a total crapshoot...I applied to 7 of the top 14 and was accepted to the 3rd most competitive, but waitlisted at the least competitive (and ended up going somewhere in between). </p>
<p>I'd apply as early as possible and be ready to be surprised (both pleasantly and not) as responses come in.</p>
<p>stacy: What were your stats, out of curiosity?</p>
<p>Okay, kids....</p>
<p>Re: the actual question: with those stats, you have shot at pretty much any school within the T14. For almost no one, though, are any of those schools a "shoo-in." Now, if I were you (with a lot of energy), I would cherry-pick about 7 of the top 14 that you really like, in areas you enjoy, with schools that have a good feel. I would also apply to three or four schools in the top 25, for several reasons:
1) getting an early acceptance makes the process a lot easier;
2) you might get merit money, which will make the extra $200 in app fees completely worth it (when else can you earn back about a hundred times what you expend?); and
3) the admissions process is pretty arbitrary; you could not get into those schools that you really want. (Consider that if your chosen half-dozen are HYS, Mich, Boalt, and UVA, you're applying to the three most competitive schools in the country + three schools that favour their in-state students.)</p>
<p>I appreciate all of these responses. A couple of questions:</p>
<p>Are the state schools eg Michigan, UVa, really predisposed to in-state students? Actually, both of these are real targets for me and I would love to get in.</p>
<p>Is Northwestern going to be difficult to get into since my work experience is summer related only?</p>
<p>I do have very good ecs also, and have put these in my essays. Will these help significantly any one place over another?</p>
<p>Finally, are Wash U, GWU and Kent reasonable back-ups? ALso considering W&M.</p>
<p>I think so...
Why do ask specifically about Northwestern? Is it known to accept only applicants who have real work experience?</p>
<p>Well, 92% of the NW class of '06 (I think it's 06) has at least one year of work experience. So it's not impossible to get in - and the applicant pool is probably skewed - but consider that it's an uphill battle.</p>
<p>That's why you should be careful about which of the T14 that you apply to. I don't know how much state residency matters with UMich & Boalt, but I'm pretty sure that it matters for a lot in UVA. Of course, they aren't going to turn down people they really want, but do remember that some of your competition is from VA residents who have a leg up on you. </p>
<p>WashU, GWU, Kent, and W&M would all be really good back-ups. Consider though - if you want the DC region, why not take a year off, work in DC/NoVa, get VA residency (i.e. move there before August '07), and then apply? That would give you your work experience for NW and (perhaps some) residential advantage for UVA and W&M (if merit money depends on the state; if not, you'll save a pile of tuition money by going there).</p>
<p>Do the majority of those accepted to t14 schools have work experience? I know it is basically a must for business schools.</p>
<p>My gpa and lsat were both a tiny bit lower than yours. I had good ECs and recommendations. </p>
<p>Michigan is bound to have 1/4 of their class be in-state residents, but I don't think resident test scores and gpas are significantly lower than those of non-residents. </p>
<p>One thing to consider is how easy it is to become a resident of a state and thus pay in-state tuition. I know it's very easy in CA, moderate in TX and MN, and nearly impossible in MI.</p>