There are big differences
1° you need a HIGH level of proficiency in German to have a shot at Vienna university (about 1 year of “post bac” study is necessary to reach that level, your “bac” level in German is not sufficient)
2° American colleges function as small communities: they offer classes, residences, career services to help you launch, career fairs and alumni networks, support and tutoring systems, health services, clubs, leadership opportunities, free entertainment from films to concerts to conferences. The students know one another, they form teams together called “intramurals”, they may cheer on their college’s sports team. Each university is like a small society that “binds” the students together.
European universities tend to be high-quality academically but don’t have career services, career fairs, alumni networks, support systems, leadership, etc. So, it’s harder to succeed and it’s also harder to find a job after your studies. They’re mostly commuter: students live at home and take the bus/drive, or they live in small apartments. There’s no “community”. However obviously you would only be able to work for 1 year after your degree v. working as you study + working as you wish in Europe.
3° There are cheaper universities than Penn State in the US. But, yes, American universities are more expensive than European ones.
4° Some universities, such as Durham in the UK, will be more “collegial” (with a campus, etc).
5° The European bachelor’s degree may be 3 or 4 years in Europe too. The 3-year degree leads to a Master; the 4-year degree tends to include time abroad and leads directly to employment. In the US, the 4-year Bachelor’s degree leads equally to graduate studies or to a job.
“they are very sad to give 170 000 euros for school.”
I would be sad also. “Heartbreaking” is a good word for it. Some US schools will be more than this, some might be a bit less. I don’t know whether you could find a good university in the US that is significantly lower than this. I am pretty sure that the universities in the province of Quebec would allow you to pay Canadian tuition, which would result in a total price for everything of slightly less than half this over four years.
The US and Canadian university systems are relatively similar. You need to take a significant number of courses outside of your major. You are also allowed to switch majors, and can usually do this during your first year without any significant problem. Both of my daughters switched majors at the end of their first years, and I didn’t even choose a major until the end of my first year. It does typically take four years as you have noticed. I am not familiar with the European system, but my impression is that the reason for the extra year in North America is that you take more classes outside of your major.
Can you talk to anyone in the industry you’re interested to ask if French companies care where you get your degree? If there are more opportunities for you to work while you study if you attend a European university, will that experience help you get a better job after graduation than you would if your work experience was more limited?
I know it’s a totally different experience both course-wise and campus-life wise for many universities vs the US system, but there are many really good universities in Europe … I have never studied on the continent but about half my graduate class in the UK were from European universities across a wide variety of countries. They very definitely had a solid grounding and performed as well as anyone else in a tough, reading- and writing-heavy degree. I have known a few people from my home country study in Europe, and of course I have met people here working in the US with European degrees. if I were your parents, I too would be hard put to justify the cost difference to go to college in the US. (I’m sure this was said upthread too.)
Im sorry for multiple posts i just realized that we cant delete, so im very sorry ! I saw University of Montreal, it’s breathtaking, it’s sad because i have to convince my parents to let me go to Canada because we lost an important person here and its veyr hard for me and for my parents to let me go in this country ( a trauma). Beside of this, i have doubts, how can i integrate such a good university with my grades… If someone can help me during this process i will be very glad! Im lookingforward to see your answers,opinions about this university! And looks like im a bit late to apply for winter…
“Is the academic quality, the campus life is the same in USA and Canada?”
I have a daughter who graduated from a US university, and I currently have another daughter at university in Canada. My siblings and I have a total of three degrees from universities in Canada, and three degrees from universities in the US. Yes, other than price they are very similar.
“Is Montreal a french speaking city?!”
Montreal is generally fully bilingual. Some parts are majority French. A few parts (not as much) are majority English. The part of Montreal around Concordia is nearly fluently bilingual. Other than some English-only Concordia students you will be hard pressed to find anyone in the area who is not bilingual, and you will overhear a few conversations that switch languages in the middle of a sentence. Concordia is one of the three English universities in the province of Quebec (the other two are McGill and Bishop’s). The University of Montreal is French. It is one of the top ranked French language universities in the world. It might also be worth considering the Université du Québec à Montréal, which is also a French language university.
Montreal is on average significantly safer than most similarly sized US cities, but it is still a big city.
Okay, im posting my grades again and let’s maybe find universities together?
FIRST YEAR OF HIGH SCHOOL FIRST SEMESTER
French writing : GPA 3.0 ‘’ a correct set thanks to the inclass works
History : Work to accentuate GPA : 2.0
English : GPA : 4.0 > An excellent student with good english level
Spanish GPA : 4.0 : An excellent student
Maths : GPA less than 2 ( harassment ) : Results are insufficient because of in home work absence.
Chimics : A serious student with good results GPA 4.0
Biology : A nice participation in class! gpa : 2.5
FIRST YEAR OF HIGH SCHOOL SECOND SEMESTER ( HELL )
French writing : Good results thanks to regular homework ! Serious student GPA 3.5
History : Efforts but still insufficient GPA 2.3
English GPA 4.0 > An excellent student
Spanish 2.0 > Results are shuting down because of personal problems. He is still a good student
Maths 1.5 GPA > No focused student, he is chatting, even with difficulties i dont believe his efforts at home ( he were in courthouse today :D)
Chimics: GPA 2.0 > Results are going down but he is doing his best to succeed even with personal problems
Biology 1.8 : Serious altitude inclass but you need to put more efforts
Economics : Nice results ! Keep going GPA 3.2
FIRST YEAR OF HIGH SCHOOL LAST SEMESTER
French writing GPA 3.0 > Good results with good skills and abilities im pretty sure that he can be a very good writer, very nice thesis and writing.
History : Excellent sky rocketing notes, GPA 3.0! You are serious keep going.
English : Excellent student 4.0 GPA. Even wiht personal problems you prooved that you arent going to let you smashed by life
Maths : A no serious student with 0 efforts, GPA 2.0 ( hello from courthouse :D)
Chimics : A serious student even if he werent able to be evaluated this semester
Biology : A very good semester, even with personal problems ! GPA 4.0
SECOND YEAR OF HIGH SCHOOL FIRST SEMESTER ( let the hell begin )
French : A bad altitude in class you have to calm down and change. GPA 2.0
English : A very good semester keep going ! GPA 3.0
Spanish : same
History : Bad altitude in class, you can be better GPA 1.9
Maths : Way too much chating in class, you have to change now. GPA 1.8
Sciences : Even with efforts,you are still in need of more efforts… GPA 2.0
SPORTS : Very good student
SECOND YEAR OF HIGH SCHOOL SECOND SEMESTER
FRENCH : GPA 2.9 > A good semester ! KEEP GOING !
English : Excellent 3.9 GPA
Spanish : SAME
History : Efforts are paying. GPA 2.3
Economics: GPA 4.0
Maths : We underline your efforts but you still need more efforts to succeed. GPA 1.6
Sciences ( hello from courthouse, two stupid professors who harassed me) : very bad student with bad altitude 1.5 gpa.
SECOND YEAR OF HIGH SCHOOL THIRD SEMESTER
FRENCH : A very nice semester but not perfect because of absences… GPA 3.0
English / Spanish : Excellent student GPA 3.0
History : You were more serious this semester but you still have difficulties gpa 2.0
Economics : A single note this semester, but you are good GPA 2.6
Maths : Efforts are underlined, but due to absences and late homework you still have difficulties gpa 2.3
sciences : A very bad altitude in class, with bad results. GPA 1.6 ( guess what, in sciences i had full score at tests )
Im looking forward to integrate an university in Canada, i hope my grade will permit myself to integrate a good university!
And i have a question, i have heard that there are some agreements between france and canada and my tuition and fees are the same with canadian people is it true? Will i have the possibility to find school about 15 000 per year?
You are not translating properly (GPA signifie moyenne générale cumulée sur douze trimestres).
Anyway we don’t need a proximate translation, but your actual grades on the French scale in the real BAC such as “Philosophy:12, maths:15…”
As mentioned previously if you have a mention bien that’s what matters.
For Concordia you need 13 so bac mention B works. You can also apply for agribusiness or Environmental Economics at Mc Gill’s McDonald campus, but not McGill city center. You can apply to Bishop’s and UQAM. I don’t know if you have enough for UDEM.
The closest to an American campus would be McGill McDonald’s.
I mean 15 000 per year. But UDEM i had a contact with students and they told me that im eligible, but idk in another universities ( like mcgill etc ) i will pay like 70 000 bc im an int student. i saw there are agreements between france and canada but im hesitating if its betqeen france canada or france quebec
No, you don’t qualify (academically) for UToronto or UBC.
Why would you apply to UAlberta, from France, for Economics??
Look into UVic and Simon Fraser.
Ottawa, yes, you have a shot. If you prepare a bilingual degree you get a half tuition scholarship.
Quebec: universities have an agreement with France. You’d only pay about €4,500 a year for tuition.( Housing is expensive though).
None of these universities is like an American campus.
For a real campus there’s McGill’s McDonald’s campus, or some of the undergraduate focused universities.
While correct (or actually cumulative GPA can be fewer than 12 terms if one has not graduated and some US colleges do use the terminology “semester GPA” and “cum GPA” on transcripts), a reminder that per ToS, all posts must be in English. A French word here and there is fine, but a full explanation has 2 issues:
1/ It alienates those users who don’t speak French and
2/ Signifies a potentially greater issue at hand for the OP if such explanations in English cannot be grasped.
“ i saw there are agreements between france and canada but im hesitating if its betqeen france canada or france quebec”
Somewhere back in the thread I posted a link to McGill about this. At that stage you were adamant you didn’t want to go to Canada so maybe you didn’t read it?
As i said earlier, due to personal problems my family werent that happy when i said that canada were a good option, and as i said im trying to convince them !
Quebec: universities have an agreement with France. You’d only pay about €4,500 a year for tuition.( Housing is expensive though).
None of these universities is like an American campus.
For a real campus there’s McGill’s McDonald’s campus, or some of the undergraduate focused universities.
Omg i dont know if i have a problem but it’s hard fo rme to understand something, is quebec and canada the same? France has agreements with quebec + canada or only one of them? If a university is in canada i pay full tuition? I saw the ranking, is UVIC simon fraser good?
‘’ None of these universities is like an American campus. ‘’ which one?
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