Where do I go by Prestige?

Hey everybody, I know there have been a lot of threads for which college is the most prestigious, but I think it’d be useful if we could narrow it by field; for example, Dartmouth won’t come in the top 20 for most prestigious STEM programs, even though it might be more prestigious overall. I’m at a point where there’s still 25 schools on my list, and I need to cut by 10. I can’t visit the campuses unfortunately, but this “prestige” thread could help in being a factor in my decision. Obviously, I’ll talk to current students, alumni, etc, as rankings don’t determine everything, but this could be interesting. I’m applying as a CS/applied math major with a focus in finance, so it’d be great if you could help tailor the list in that way. I’ll give my interpretation.

Here’s the list of schools:

  1. Stanford
  2. MIT
  3. UC Berkeley
  4. Harvard
  5. CMU
  6. Princeton
  7. Cornell
  8. UPenn
  9. Columbia
  10. Harvey Mudd
  11. Brown
  12. Duke
  13. Rice
  14. UCLA
  15. JHU
  16. UC San Diego
  17. WUSTL
    18 - 25: bunch of safeties

As 1-17 are all reaches for everybody for CS, I would focus on your safeties as well - are they really safeties for your stats and your parents’ budget?

Honestly, 1-17 are all great places but vary in terms of size, location, vibe, availability of internships, etc. I think those factors are more important to your college experience than “prestige.”

Budget isn’t an issue; I don’t really have a strong preference for size or location. Vibe is hard to capture. Internships are really important to me. My safeties are safeties for sure; I’ve already been accepted to a college through rolling.

How many campuses have you visited? It’s very odd that you have no preferences whatsoever.

I’ve only visited the local ones, so the ones on the upper east coast. I have some preferences, but it’d be great if CCers could post their ranking opinions, so that I can take this into account as well. Prestige is important to me.

Why?

Whom do you plan to try to impress?
No one is going to look at your vitae for CS and be overly impressed.
All of us adults know graduates from these schools and honestly, no one cares.

As for your “list”, you have California publics that will not prioritize you if you are not from California. Take the UC’s off of your list since your seek prestige and not a real comprehensive education. The classes are large and they might not be stuffy enough for you.

If your budget is not an issue, why can’t you visit? Each of these schools is different and has a completely different vibe.

The OP does appear to have a strong preference for prestige that appears to override everything else.

Honestly, prestige based on a random poll on college confidential isn’t any better than looking at USNews ranking.
You might want to see if there is a major award in your field and where the winners went to school for an idea of career-specific prestige.

Tier 1. Harvard, Stanford, MIT
Tier 2. Princeton, Penn, Columbia, Duke
Tier 3. Brown, JHU, Cornell
Tier 4. CMU, Rice, WUSTL, Berkeley, Harvey Mudd, UCLA

Prestige is illusory. And I went to a school on your list.

Having lived in the northeast , west coast, and the southeast, I must strongly suggest you visit to narrow down. All of your schools (and many others) are great. Can they get you where you want to go professionally and/or grad school? Absolutely! If cost is truly no issue, it must come down to preferences. You say “no preference” but you must realize there is an enormous difference between:

City vs. Suburban vs. Rural
Large vs. Small
Public vs. Private
Weather
Culture of the area (outside of the “bubble”)

Some kids love large lectures while others feel more comfortable in small discussion based classes. Is the sports scene or school spirit important? All of these issues will play a role in your enjoyment over the next four yrs.

My S had many schools on his list. On paper they were all great (and are all great, just not all for him). Once we started visiting, it narrowed pretty quickly. Next step was to apply to several on his narrowed list and others that were very similar including 2 safeties.

What you’ll find, especially with your initial list, is admissions is not a science and can appear quite random with the highly selective schools. Put two kids side by side with virtually identical specs, apply to the same schools, and you’ll get very different results. Figure the most selective schools decline about 70% - 80% of applications that could be quite successful at their institution AFTER they get rid of the ones that should never have applied.

I mean that I can’t visit at this point because it’s late Nov, and I need to fill out a lot of applications.

For computer science pretty much no one cares about prestige. If you make the point to a recruiter that prestige was the main reason why you selected a school, then you might not help your chances of getting a job.

I think that for CS Harvard is too high on your list and Michigan and Caltech are way too low.

I would take the UCs off your list as you are not a CA resident. Assuming you and/or your parents care about the value gained from tuition, I would invest in schools where you are likely to get more personalized attention from professors rather than facing large introductory lecture classes and impacted majors. If you were in state for CA, I’d be giving different advice. 30K is reasonable for the quality. For 60K+ there are better choices.

That said, if you have a burning desire to live and work in CA after graduation, developing job experience in the region might be useful. Another way to think about narrowing down your list is to ask yourself if there are geographical locations that would be unpalatable to you in the short or long term.

Agree with @DadTwoGirls . If you are looking for CS prestige, you should move Harvard, Duke, WUSTL, UPenn, JHU down, and add State powerhouses such as UWashington, UIUC, Georgia Tech, UT Austin.

Whose fault is that?

Didn’t your GC limit how many schools you can apply to?

This thread is ridiculous!
Seriously? Picking a college on prestige-only?

If your sole interest is prestige, you’re in a rotten Catch-22, as those top colleges like to filter out applicants with a prestige jones. It’s so off. It’s incomplete thinking. It’s not match.

No Dartmouth? Do you not view as prestigious? Just wondering…

The OP expressed this opinion on Dartmouth:

Having seen alot of colleges over the years and living in the north, south and west you are setting yourself up for a potentially a big disappointment. There are huge cultural differences. Honestly, fit trumps everything else if you are fortunate enough to have choices. At your stage in life everyone is talking about colleges in adulthood few give it a second thought. Going to school in a rural setting versus a big city is a major difference. At least dwindle it down by some other parameter than prestige. Also keep in mind many folks go to state schools all over the country where they are a force to reckon with. In certain areas they dominate the business world. So while you have the prestigious degree you could be passed over for a local alum as well. While you may be biased for prestige others are biased against it. It works both ways.