Where do the casual, non-hipster, jock/outdoorsy kids go to college?

@Lindagaf WOOOHOOO - Congrats!!! After having 4 accepted to USC and having at least one (or two) attending there for 9 consecutive years (one still there - will pass a solid decade at USC soon), I will be glad to tell you everything I can about USC and TTP. I know it soooo well and am pretty involved in some things on campus still (no not helicoptering)! Unlike you, my kids would be horrified if I posted specifics about them, so I need to keep those specifics in a PM, (and I don’t want to derail this thread) but here is the first post of the TTP thread that I start every year around this time on the USC forum (that’s where I live, ha). This will help you come up with some questions. I love USC, we are a Trojan family, but I really try to present the good, bad, and the ugly - I will call it like I see it and won’t paint a rosy picture if there isn’t one. I’m here if you need!

Trojan Transfer Plan
For those who got TTP in their denial letter - it is not offered to everyone. You are “denied” this year but encouraged to apply next year as a transfer. You have a very good chance of being accepted (almost a guarantee so I wish they would make it one) as a sophomore transfer if you have a good gpa and take the right classes. For those who got TTP in their rejection letter - it is not offered to everyone. You can attend a CC, a state school or any 4 year university for your first year. You can do study abroad through universities that USC partners with. They have more articulation agreements (a list of courses that are acceptable at USC from another school) available from CC and state schools, but there are some from 4 year universities, and it is completely acceptable to come from any 4 year. Obviously you may attend your 4 year and decide you want to stay, and say heck with the TTP. If you decide to go for USC as a sophomore you will need to apply as a transfer applicant before February 1st during freshman year (back to the common app again, weeeee).

How does this differ from a regular transfer applicant? The difference - you are given the opportunity to meet with a USC advisor in June or July BEFORE freshman year to make sure you understand what is best for you to take during that first year at your other college - what looks best to increase your transfer chances. They do not go over specific courses at your college, but just an idea what fits into their GEs, and what is good to get over with and bring to USC. They do not offer this consult to “regular” transfer applicants. It may be a way for them to meet you as well, but it is more to go over stuff with you. Apparently, if you meet a 3.7-3.8 recommended gpa first year and get the right credits you need (30), you are almost guaranteed a spot. Note almost. It means you may have an edge over those applying as a transfer without TTP. Nothing is ever guaranteed in college admissions till you get your packet!

So what do you do? You move on with your life and plan on attending another school first. Then you can pursue the TTP by expressing interest and signing up for meeting in summer. Then go to your other school. If it is a CC (2 year), you can work really hard to make the transfer happen. If it is a big 4 year school, I would embrace it, commit to it, and give it a chance. If you don’t love it after first semester, you can apply by February 1st for the transfer as a TTP applicant. If you have adjusted, love your new school and forgot about USC - then just don’t apply. It’s that simple.

Personal thoughts - for those that are 100% committed to graduate from USC it can work out and let you still have your dream, and even save a good amount of money (if you go to a cc for a year for example), or study abroad. Some kids feel if USC didn’t want them the first time, they don’t want USC later. For others, it’s not a bad back up plan - you can go to another school and if you don’t like it, go for this. For some, it can turn it into a hostage acceptance, because the student (and parent) hang in limbo for a year while trying to meld with the other school, and just don’t because they still dream of USC. How you treat it is up to you. They will give you the idea a cc is better, but it doesn’t matter where you go (they can’t encourage a 4 year because it would be un-PC to do so). I would strongly think about whether you really want to change plans and give up another great 4 year college and the freshman experience you could have on a maybe from USC (in the case of doing cc rather than 4 year).

It is stressful all over again, no question. They do the common app and go through the acceptance cycle again in the spring. Brutal. Frankly, I wish they were guaranteed with a GPA, or even a date of acceptance, the stress of waiting till May or June to find out if admitted is unnecessary. Housing is often filled by them and not guaranteed to transfers. At the meetings, some advisors will be positive and reassuring, others will treat them like they are lucky to even be in this pool and tell them it’s not guaranteed over and over. Not a fan of the second class citizen treatment.

Point is, some will say heck yes, and some will say, heck no, it is an individual choice. Biggest thing to keep in mind is it doesn’t matter if you are coming from a 2 or 4 year. So don’t feel like you have to attend a cc or state school, or something other than you intend currently, to make USC happy. It doesn’t matter. Make yourself happy. GPA and the correct classes are all that matter for the Trojan Transfer Plan.

Thanks for the info @CADREAMIN . I like your enthusiasm! He isn’t planning on transferring, but he is going to CA in June, because my family lives there and he might as well see the campus and meet with an advisor.

Kind of sad I don’t have more kids to send to college. I love hearing about college journeys too!

@lindagaf. I will be happy to oblige as I have a current sophomore whose college journey is likely to be completely different than the process with my first! :wink:

Please keep us posted, @mamaedefamilia .

Been hearing lots of great things from local parents about Binghamton. Starting to feel excited for my boy!

The first school that comes to mind is Clarkson university in Potsdam NY. It has a wide range of majors, but it’s mainly stem majors. However, it is small but it may be in his range. Lots of access to outdoor activities though. I’m pretty sure they have club lacrosse and they have D1 hockey and lots of school spirit. Not a nerdy environment, definitely a cool environment. Pretty moderate for politics. It has great career fairs, relatable professors, and a good reputation.

I am going to suny Binghamton next year. this school is strong in liberal arts. It’s a little on the larger side, with about 14k students. There is lots of access to ourdoor activities. However, there aren’t really any big sport teams to watch. Not a nerdy environment at all and there is good lacrosse. Pretty moderate politically. Best SUNY school. Not great career advising though.

RIT is another good one, it’s pretty strong for a wide variety of majors but it’s most known for engineering. There is about 14k students? There are lots of outdoor activities and club lacrosse. You will get some nerds, but it’s generally not super nerdy. Moderate politically. EXCELLENT career advising and AMAZING internships.

UVM is good but very liberal. Not sure about boulder or the cali schools. My parents went to geneseo and that’s also excellent. SUNYS are good. Idk much about evergreen state or bates.

I think prestige is not as important as fit. UVM, Bing, Geneseo, Clarkson, RIT, new paltz, Oswego, and Plattsburgh seem like some really great fits.

As a bearcat, I hope to see him soon!

Thanks, @karlee2510 , this thread has been running for quite a while. He’s committed to Bing:-) . If you like, read post #309.

Oh my goodness, I didn’t see the date! Congrats, looks like I’ll see him in the fall!

Congrats!!!

Update: My son is all settled into a beautiful 5 person suite with two full bathrooms. His roommates seem great. There’s a sand volleyball court and Adirondack chairs on the lawn. Binghamton’s campus had a wonderful buzzing vibe and looked immaculate. Everything was modern and the facilities we saw were excellent. The collegiate professor who is in charge of his community (Dickinson, great location, near everything) was enthusiastic and we felt confident that she was invested in the students and their success. Thumbs up.

He attended the last official orientation session so didn’t have great choices for classes, but on class drop day, he diligently waited at his computer to snag a class he really wanted. He’s got a schedule he’s happy with. His biggest class has 90, and the smallest is 16. I’m pretty happy with that, given he’s just a freshman.

So far, he’s having a ball and really likes it. We did visit USC this summer (my family lives in So Cal), which he also liked a lot, but unless something happens, I don’t foresee him transferring there.

This is all a long-winded way of me saying that I was making judgements about my son’s decision. It’s too early to tell if Binghamton was definitely the right choice, but the important thing is that he certainly feels it is. I am proudly sporting a Binghamton Bearcats bumper sticker on my car, right next to my Bates sticker. If you ever see a knackered old Honda Pilot on the road to Lewiston or Binghamton, feel free to wave.