Where do the Graduates Go? *OFFICIAL THREAD*

College Search & Selection
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<p>I think Bill went to Georgetown not University of Arkansas (though he did teach there), but it is Chelsea who went to Stanford.</p>

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<p>Some similar info for Harvard from The Crimson - Harvard career services collects this data, but doesn't release it</p>

<p>The</a> Harvard Crimson :: News :: ?07 Men Make More</p>

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<p>Anything like this for Notre Dame?</p>

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<p>What about Middlebury? <em>curious</em></p>

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<p>George Washington University (CLASS OF 2006):</p>

<p><a href="http://gwired.gwu.edu/career/merlin-cgi/p/downloadFile/d/17662/n/off/other/1/name/GradSurveyResults2006pdf/%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://gwired.gwu.edu/career/merlin-cgi/p/downloadFile/d/17662/n/off/other/1/name/GradSurveyResults2006pdf/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

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<p>Not so much school specific but rather major specific;
<a href="http://nces.ed.gov/pubs2008/2008155.pdf%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://nces.ed.gov/pubs2008/2008155.pdf&lt;/a> Ten Years After College:
Comparing the Employment Experiences of 1992–93 Bachelor’s
Degree Recipients With Academic and Career- Oriented Majors</p>

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<p>Chelsea went to Stanford.</p>

<p>Hillary went to Wellesley</p>

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<p>Did Condi go to Stanford or just teach there??</p>

<p>And wasn't Sandra Day O'Conner a Stanford grad??</p>

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<p>Condi taught at Stanford, went to University of Denver for undergrad and Notre Dame for her masters</p>

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<p>just adding another school.</p>

<p>bucknell:
Post</a> Graduation Report || Bucknell University</p>

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I think your example of Harvard and MIT is not the type of comparison we are talking about. People are equally successful coming from MIT or Harvard. Technical schools are always going to be more rigorous than nontechnical schools, when they have similar student bodies. And I'm not sure I could say Harvard is more prestigious than MIT. In many technical circles, MIT, Caltech and Stanford are seeing as more prestigious.</p>

<p>As for work ethic, I know when I was in high school, I managed to graduate in the top 5% of my high school(HS SAT average 1050), got very nice scores for everything without much studying at all, this is true for many of my friends who went to top schools. Most of us were in technical disciplines and had to really learn how to study and compete in a environment filled with overachievers. (SAT average 1350+)
I also knew a few people from high school who went into some of the lower ranked schools(SAT average around 1100), having equal credentials as we do, they seemed to have cruised through college, never really developing the study habits necessary, they ended up with great GPAs but it is essentially a slightly harder version of our high school, and they suffer once they get to grad school. This is the work ethic that I'm talking about.

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So you are agreeing with me. A <em>hard</em> school gives you work ethic, not a prestigious school. Thanks.</p>

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I'm not sure I could say Harvard is more prestigious than MIT. In many technical circles, MIT, Caltech and Stanford are seeing as more prestigious.

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<p>Yeah, but how many 'circles' out there are technical? Let's face it. Whether we like it or not, most jobs and most professions out there are not technical in nature, and in particular, whether we like it or not, the powerful positions in the world are usually nontechnical. Infamous yet highly telling is the quote: "Too many M.I.T. graduates end up working for too many Princeton and Harvard graduates,'' Ann F. Friedlaender, former dean at MIT.</p>

<p>M.I.T</a>. LOOKS BEYOND ENGINEERING - New York Times</p>

<p>Besides, I could argue it the other way too. Schools like Purdue, Maryland, and Penn State have higher engineering rankings than does Harvard. But does it then follow that you can't "be sure" that Harvard is not more prestigious than those schools? Come on. Look, whether we like it or not, Harvard is Harvard. Harvard is the one school in the world that has the transcendent brand name that no other school - not even MIT - can touch. It's not really fair, it's not really deserved, but it is the reality.</p>

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<p>So what does this all mean? Graduates are gonna have a harder time at finding jobs because of the recession that's already happened?</p>

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<p>Naturally it depends which industry you are planning on going into. Most service industries will probably see a natural decline as business tries to tighten their belts. Certain industries like manufacturing will likely go up, just because of the current decline in the dollar, the oil industry will stay hiring, etc.</p>

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<p>anything for Notre Dame</p>

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<p>Notre Dame? You got it:
<a href="http://careercenter.nd.edu/assets/2322/2007_future_plans_final.pdf%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://careercenter.nd.edu/assets/2322/2007_future_plans_final.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

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<p>Any grad school acceptance lists for Villanova?</p>

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<p>Sakky, I know what you think about technical people, and I agree with you, that top technical people aren't paid as well as they could have been paid if they went into Ibanking/Consulting. </p>

<p>I was merely pointing out that on the elite level of MIT vs. Harvard, MIT has a better reputation in engineering academia. I'm not a high schooler checking out USNEWS rankings for the first time, of course I'm not going to say that Purdue is more prestigious than Harvard. At the undergraduate level, I think if I had the choice between Harvard and MIT, I think I would probably choose Harvard due to the brand, and also as you and I both know, most college freshmen have no idea what they want to do, or they might think they do, and change their minds later on. If you are serious about the profession of engineering, I'm not sure too many people would be choosing between MIT and Harvard for their PhDs.</p>

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I was merely pointing out that on the elite level of MIT vs. Harvard, MIT has a better reputation in engineering academia.

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<p>Obviously nobody is denying that MIT is a far better engineering school than is Harvard. </p>

<p>What I am saying is that, like it or not, and at least in this country, engineers simply don't have the power that people in other professions do, i.e. business managers, financiers, politicians, lawyers, and so forth. That's the (unfortunate) reality of the nation we live in. I wish it wasn't true, but it is true. Engineering will provide you a fine middle class or upper-middle-class lifestyle. But if you are gunning for true power, you have to do something else, i.e. start your own company (at which point you're no longer an engineer, but a businessman).</p>

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<p>You won't find this on the web anywhere, but one of the most successful Cornell alums is a name you have probably never heard: Melvin van Horne. His claim to fame: a role on the most successful television comedy in history. The stage name for this mysterious Cornell alum? Sideshow Mel was revealed as a Cornell alum in the Simpson's sixteenth season. Cornell theater training is behind that Shakespearian accent. Sideshow Mel has borne Crusty's sadistic abuse with great dignity and panash.</p>

<p>So, I want to hear from the prospective Ivy Leaguers out there. How great would it be to have Sideshow Mel in YOUR alumni network??!!</p>