Where do Williams graduates go to work?

<p>My daughter was accepted to Williams, and I am concerned about her career. It seems like this school is geared toward prepping for grad school, with a small percent entering the workforce. I can't pay for grad school and 4 years at Williams, and I don't know if there is much the liberal arts degree actually does for you if you need to work to pay for and attend grad school.</p>

<p>I' m trying to justify this school and it's cost vs something else on the list that seems more practical from a career standpoint (Tufts for example). The Williams web site doesn't give me confidence that kids are self sufficient or strong income earners after Williams.</p>

<p>It is NOT a trade school-- you can much better value for your money in that way at DeVry or University of Phoenix. But I haven’t heard of many Williams alumni/ae begging for food unless that is what they want to do.<br>
Seriously, they get fine jobs if they wish to go into the workforce-- but, here is the caution–if your D attends Williams she might just decide that refrigeration repair or investment banking is not for her and will want to get a PhD to be an art historian-- it is a chance you’ll have to take…</p>

<p>Barb, Interesting question. I would say that job opportunities for students with BA/BS degrees from academically rigorous colleges and universities are fairly equal. So if your daughter has a liberal arts degree in English or economics or biology (for example) her hirability would be about the same whether she goes to Williams or Tufts.</p>

<p>An undergraduate degree in business may give her more traction in the job market, but this is arguable. Most business types eventually get MBAs.</p>

<p>The important to remember is that no one springs fully formed from college to career success. They have internships and summer jobs, make contacts with alumni/ae networks, consult their professors and career counseling centers. On all of these Williams scores highly.</p>

<p>The Williams name may not be a household word (especially outside of the Eastcoast) but it is well known and respected by graduate school admission and hiring managers.</p>

<p>Also, graduate or professional degrees have become pretty much a requirement in many fields, not just business. But don’t worry, parents are off the hook. Grants, loans or, if you’re lucky, employer paid programs are the common way to finance grad school.</p>

<p>I’m not sure where you get the data that only a “small percent [of Williams grads] enter the workforce.” Actually, Williams is usually criticized for being TOO focused on career advancement, especially on Wall Street. The Williams website may be trying to overcompensate for this mercenary perception. :)</p>

<p>Among my son’s peers, most (if not all) went to work after graduation. Williams was very helpful to them in their placement, though many *chose *non-profit , i.e. low paid, organizations. Now, five years out, most are in very good graduate programs and on their way to being healthy, wealthy and wise.</p>

<p>Thank you for the thoughtful replies. I had read the Williams web site itself, which boasts a 75% grad student rate. I thought that might make the school focus less on the future of the 25% who will be supporting themselves. After going to a prep school, she’s a good fit for Williams, but I wasn’t sure how grad school would fit in.
Again, thanks!</p>

<p>Remember, Barb, that the 75 percent figure represents the percent of Williams grads earning graduate degrees within five years of graduating. </p>

<p><a href=“http://careers.williams.edu/students/find-a-job/first-senior-jobs/[/url]”>http://careers.williams.edu/students/find-a-job/first-senior-jobs/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>A lower percentage go to grad school directly out of college, so a lot more than a quarter of students are employed directly after Williams. For example, a lot of Williams students eventually earn MBAs, but almost none of them do so prior to working for at least two to five years after graduating Williams.</p>

<p>And of course, frankly, in most occupations that Williams students tend to gravitate towards – law, medicine, business executives, college professors, public policy, research scientists, etc. – a grad degree is either required, or fairly essential to succeed.</p>

<p>My son, who entered Williams as a music major, is now entering a grad program in Art History in September. Haha. We are very proud of him. In the meantime he HAS been working in a photographer studio, has recently joined a band playing keyboard, and is brushing up on violin to give lessons. He is interested in museum work but open to appraisal work and galleries and art dealership. His ultimate major was Classics, so he has wandered around quite a bit, but his knowledge base from Williams is impressive. BTW he graduated in '11 so we are quite satisfied with his progress. He is living at home, but we are happy to have him back for a little while.</p>

<p>Williams is very much a learn by doing kind of place so he has been trained to DO things, which I think is quite a gift. My D’s training at Barnard/Columbia was more academic. She went to law school, but when she decided law wasn’t for her, she has floundered a bit and is also home. She is also working, as a nanny, but is pursuing a new direction. In this very bad economy flexibility is a must. We are certain both will eventually land on their fe
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<p>30% of this ranking (#1) derives from alumni income and prominence [Williams</a> College Trumps Ivy League on Forbes Top Colleges List - DailyFinance](<a href=“Stock Portfolio & Tracker - Yahoo Finance”>Stock Portfolio & Tracker - Yahoo Finance)</p>

<p>Or Top Colleges That Will Make You Rich (#1 as well) [Full</a> List: Colleges That Will Make You Rich - No. 1 Williams College - Forbes.com](<a href=“http://www.forbes.com/2010/08/27/college-graduate-salary-earnings-lifestyle-education-colleges-10-rich_slide_2.html]Full”>Full List: Colleges That Will Make You Rich)</p>

<p>There is SO much more to Williams than the rankings but to look empirically at alumni financial success post-grad those stats are pretty astounding.</p>

<p>Williams grads are typically very successful in whatever field they choose after graduation, whether that be a career or grad school.</p>

<p>More thanks for some good links and thoughts. I’m seeing the school next week :slight_smile: </p>

<p>barb</p>

<p>As a fairly recent graduate I can honestly say that the career opportunities for ephs are exceptional even in this poor economy. I happened to choose Wall Street at a premier firm and have a deferral to a T-3 school for a joint JD/MBA to be considered later. Going to Williams had a lot to do with these options being available. Many of my classmates went in different directions with most of them being quite happy. Some have already changed jobs in search of either more money or different challenges, most are thinking of graduate school someday. If the value of a Williams degree is not well known to the people you are speaking to, then you just might be speaking to the wrong people. No one way is right for everyone. My sibling chose a flagship state school with a cost half that of Williams and is at a T-6 law school. Now there my sibling would be the first to admit that the state school did not provide the same quality of undergraduate education that Williams does. Small classes and great teachers at Williams provide a significant benefit. Amazing resources. However once you have a JD/PhD/MBA few ever ask where you went to undergraduate school so there is more than one way to skin a cat. Unless the other schools she was accepted to were HYS, and in some cases even then, go to Williams. Good luck with your decision. I loved going to Williams.</p>

<p>For undergraduate, the top 3 is “HYP” not “HYS”.</p>

<p>another thank you. Williams it is :)</p>

<p>For all it’s worth: I’m a Harvard Business School grad, 25 years ago. In my days Williams had second highest proportional acceptance rate to HBS after Harvard college. Don’t know about now.</p>