<p>I could only find the policy for the class of 2014. Advanced</a> Placement Credit : Center for Academic Support.</p>
<p>Is it the same? If not, could someone please tell me the AP test score required for Physics B, American Gov and Politics, and Psychology?</p>
<p>AFAIK, the policy hasn’t changed in several years. (It’s the same as it was in 2008 when i first looked at it.)</p>
<p>Please note that you cannot use AP credit to fulfill the requirements of a cluster. Some departments will not allow use of AP credits to fulfill major requirements. <cough>Biology</cough></p>
<p>I called and asked about the AP policy just a week ago and they said the 2014 one on the website is still good.</p>
<p>We’ve been debating forever at our house about using AP credit for calculus. Son is planning on engineering. Some say colleges teach it differently and you miss out if you don’t start from square one, however would the school let you skip 2 semesters if it wasn’t in a students interest?</p>
<p>Granted he won’t take the AP BC exam for a few weeks. However, I completely anticipate he’ll get a 4 or 5 - they have taken practice exams and he’s always gotten a 5.</p>
<p>My thought is starting college can be challenging enough. We have no idea how challenging first semester classes will be for him so why not have a class he know will be no problem or maybe they’ll be going over things differently or more in depth. </p>
<p>He says he’s tired of easy math and would like a challenge, and to have 2 extra classes out of the way to use in a different way. Though we aren’t exactly sure if it means he takes 2 electives or just gets credit for those classes.</p>
<p>Any experience with jumping over the first two calc classes?</p>
<p>eyemamom - here are links to past final exams for Calc I (MTH 161) and Calc II (MTH 162). If he can do well on these finals, he ought to be ready to take the AP credit. Maybe these will help him figure out what to take. He’ll also have time to talk to math profs during orientation and they’ll advise him. </p>
<p><a href=“http://wetalldid.files.■■■■■■■■■■■■■/2011/11/math-161-final-w-solutions-2001-calculus-1a.pdf[/url]”>http://wetalldid.files.■■■■■■■■■■■■■/2011/11/math-161-final-w-solutions-2001-calculus-1a.pdf</a>
<a href=“http://www.math.rochester.edu/courses/162/home/exams/Final%20_exam_SS10.pdf[/url]”>http://www.math.rochester.edu/courses/162/home/exams/Final%20_exam_SS10.pdf</a></p>
<p>Eyemamom, my daughter is currently a Junior at the U of R. She is a biology major. As a senior in high school, she took the AP BC exam and received a 5. Although she could have probably used her AP credit to waive the math requirement, she elected to take a year of math at U of R. She took MATH 164 (multidimensional calculus) and MATH 165 (linear algebra with differential equations). she received an A and an A- respectively and briefly considered minoring in math. This may not be a right choice for every student but worked out well for my daughter.</p>
<p>DS is a freshman who also got a 5 on the AP BC exam and went right into Math 164 and got an A in it and loved it. </p>
<p>The math department has counseling at freshman orientation to help students decide where to start. Additionally, a student can drop down into a lower level after the start of classes, but I don’t think they are allowed to move up levels.</p>
<p><a href=“http://www.math.rochester.edu/course…_exam_SS10.pdf%5B/url%5D”>http://www.math.rochester.edu/course…_exam_SS10.pdf</a>
I think Calc II final exam in Rochester isn’t that hard in compare to my CAL AB class in high school… I can honestly get at least 80% right answers. I’m not good at math at all. Should I take easy class to get an A or take challenge class… aww I’m confused. I’m not gonna get over 4 in AP exam anyway hehe</p>
<p>I’ll just say - this seems to be a question everyone wrestles with - what math course to start with. 
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<p>At orientation, at least a couple years ago, there was a panel with several profs for parents to go to. The math prof talked in general about math placement. </p>
<p>There are three levels of the Calc sequence - the 140’s, 160’s, and 170’s. The 170-sequence is proof based and uses the Spivak Calculus book. The 160’s are what most engineering students take (although I’ve known of eng students taking the 170 sequence). </p>
<p>The prof at the general discussion said very clearly that if you’re on the fence about which sequence to take, start with the more difficult one and they make it EXTREMELY easy to switch into the next level down if you want, even pretty far into the semester (like Thanksgiving or something). I think students are allowed to move up a level, but it’s just harder to do successfully. </p>
<p>As far as which course in any sequence to start with, I’m not sure if it’s as easy to switch from say Calc II to Calc I or the other way around. </p>
<p>The math department is very available during freshman orientation for students to go ask questions about placement. It’s just something a ton of students need some guidance on. Nobody wants to be bored, and nobody wants to be in over their head. The math department makers a terrific effort at offering guidance here, so students should go talk to them about it at orientation. I think there are open hours when students can drop by. </p>
<p>There’s also the 160Q sequence (Q=quest). Just to further confuse you. ;)</p>
<p>My S is undecided about which class to start with also.</p>
<p>I will reiterate that the math dept has great advising and the people in the dept offices are very approachable and helpful.</p>
<p>D2 had 4 semesters of college math when she got to UR, but was unsure about her placement. (Calc 3 and linear algebra was taught at her high school so she didn’t have college credits.) The dept evaluated her coursework and gave her credits, though in the end she decided, after a whole lot of stressing, to start with MTH 165. </p>
<p>(She didn’t take the 170 series because it’s very difficult to start at the end of sequence and she really wasn’t planning on being a math major–though she ended up one. She’ll graduate with highest distinction in math next month.)</p>
<p>The math dept. handbook has AP placement suggestions here:</p>
<p>[UR</a> Math: Advanced Placement](<a href=“http://www.math.rochester.edu/undergraduate/handbook/ap.html]UR”>http://www.math.rochester.edu/undergraduate/handbook/ap.html)</p>
<p>Remember these are guidelines only.</p>
<p>@eyemamom–if your son scores a 4 or 5 on the Calc BC exam, I’d recommend he take the advanced standing. Engineering students have a tough courseload, esp the first 2 years. If he can free up some space in his schedule, it will make his life so much easier.</p>
<p>Also if he’s in over his head–and that will become apparent quite quickly–he can always drop back a level. The math dept is particularly cooperative on late drop-adds.</p>
<p>He will get AP credit on his transcript</p>
<p>It appear like this, as a separate notation at the very bottom of his transcript separate from any classes he takes at UR:</p>
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<p>It will not be included in his GPA calculations.</p>
<p>Whether AP credits are counted toward fulfilling the minimum number of credits required for graduation is department dependent.</p>
<p>Okay, I’ll chill out. I’ll print off those tests and have him take a look.</p>
<p>One thing I can’t get through my head -they give credits for AP’s - we’ll talk about Calc to be consistent. </p>
<p>They say you get 8 credits. Is that 8 fewer credits you need to take overall, or do you then take 2 different classes in their place? Could he have 2 semesters with 3 classes?</p>
<p>Those 8 credits go towards the total credit count needed for the degree. So yes, it means you can have 2 semesters with 3 classes.</p>
<p>I know a kid at U Mich who had enough AP credits to be able to graduate in 3 years without overloading.</p>
<p>Doubtful he’ll have any semesters with just 3 classes. If you look the suggested curricula for the engineering programs, you’ll see engineers have to overload to 5 classes/semester sophomore or junior year just to graduate on time. What may happen is he will have 2 semesters with just 4 classes while his peers are taking 5.</p>
<p>I’m not sure if 3 classes/semester is considered full time status. Which could be a problem when looking at requirements for FA.</p>
<p>Full time = 12 credit hours. most Rochester classes are 4 credit hours, so 3 classes would be full time (assuming they add up to 12)</p>
<p>You need 128 to graduate (with the right number toward your major & clusters), so that’s 4 4-credit classes per semester. The AP credit can help meet those 128 hours, fulfill specific courses (like Calculus), or waive you into hire level courses. </p>
<p>Most freshmen take 16 hours their first semester.</p>