Where would Duke fall on the Athletic Index of the ivies?

<p>And how far could you deviate from it if you're a top ten athlete in the country for the 1600 and 800 meter run in Track and under 15 45 for a 5k.
thanks in advance!</p>

<p>Do you mean Academic Index? As in, what would be minimum test scores required for a top track athlete at Duke?</p>

<p>Yeah because i didn’t know if there are athletic and academic, i’ve heard both but yeah i mean i have a 218 ai which is like a 6 out of 9. Is that good enough if i’m in the top ten nationally?</p>

<p>If you’ve calculated your AI to be 218, you’ll be fine at Duke if they really want you as an athlete.</p>

<p>Duke is free to take whomever they want, as long as they meet the NCAA Eligibility standards. In 2007, average male Duke athlete SAT was 1172. (Non-basketball athletes 1258)</p>

<p>really? because the reason my ai was so high was because of my sat of 2310, my gpa is like a 4.4 but my class rank is 15 out of 300. Would they still take me? I dont know if it helps being an athlete but i’m also an eagle scout, emt, apat of the Office of Emergency Management, and raised over 1000 dollars for a student orginization i started up at my school but my brother was the actual founder, he started it at his college, i created a branch. Would any of that help or hurt my admissions.</p>

<p>Well those Duke SATs are 2 part, obvs - no writing.
If you can run one of the 10 fastest miles in the country - your academics and ECs will not be an issue. (I’m getting a sense of Deja vu here…)</p>

<p>Haha i know its just that i find it hard to beleive that a school academicaly close if not spot on to the ivies would in non revenue sports like football or basketball have to recruit athletes near their mean scores.</p>

<p>[Athletes</a>’ test scores lag behind average | The Chronicle](<a href=“http://dukechronicle.com/article/athletes-test-scores-lag-behind-average]Athletes”>http://dukechronicle.com/article/athletes-test-scores-lag-behind-average)</p>

<p>wow, that really helped, thank you, one last question, do you think i would be eligible for a scholarship and do you know how much usually is awarded to non revenue sports?</p>

<p>Don’t count on much athletic $ for track. Coach usually has about 3 scholarships to dole out to cover all the incoming men’s xc and track recruits. I have heard from a couple Duke runners that were brought on w/o a scholarship but told they could potentially earn one as a sophomore. Those guys are juniors now and running well, but still no $.</p>

<p>Varska’s comments are spot on. With your top 5% rank, strong test scores, and (presumably) coach’s support, you’ll be accepted.</p>

<p>Scholarship money in non revenue sports is hard to get, but Duke is relatively generous with need based aid.</p>

<p>yeah thats what i thought, hopefully i’ll be lucky. When you say 3 scholarships, do they usually split them up and give a number of partial scholarships or is it only for three people?</p>

<p>Typically they’re split up.</p>

<p>these guidelines may help you … [Men’s</a> Track Recruiting Guidelines](<a href=“http://www.ncsasports.org/recruiting-tools/College-Track-Recruiting/mens-track-recruiting-guidelines]Men’s”>http://www.ncsasports.org/recruiting-tools/College-Track-Recruiting/mens-track-recruiting-guidelines).</p>

<p>this may help also … <a href=“http://www.speeddevelopment.net/NCAA_College_Scholarship_Rules_and_Limits_-_CollegeAthletes.com.pdf[/url]”>http://www.speeddevelopment.net/NCAA_College_Scholarship_Rules_and_Limits_-_CollegeAthletes.com.pdf&lt;/a&gt; … remember those scholarships need to spread out over 4 years and all disciplines … so someone has to be a top-top recruit to get big bucks. </p>

<p>What are you 800/1500 times?</p>

<p>Keep in mind that not all of the top ten runners would qualify academically for Duke, Stanford, or the ivies.</p>

<p>my 800 time is junir year 1 50 and 1600 a 4 16 and what do you mean beenthere2</p>

<p>I think beenthere2 is saying that some top HS athletes aren’t recruitable at top colleges because they aren’t academically qualified. Because of this a top ten athletic prospect might be a top one, two, or three recruit at the more academically competitive colleges.</p>

<p>I think the real issue is how bad does a school/coach wants to win…now in the none revenue sports winning is nice, but it’s not paramount like it is in football/basketball and maybe selected sports at certain schools (Wrestling in Iowa/Iowa St.) If a coach has the juice to pull the athlete into his program whether they are qualified or not it’s justified by the exposure that the school receives from that. </p>

<p>It’s interesting we are in the early stages of March Madness which for the most part funds the NCAA and for member schools it funds all of their championships in D1,(except football) D2 & D3 programs and academic programs will never provide the support or funding that single sport program will.</p>

<p>OP … with those times you likely will be recruit at virtual any school with a bunch of caveats … it they already have a ton of middle distance runners they may not use a recruiting slot on another mid-distance guy … at very top D1 schools those times might get you not get you recruited to the specific school you want (for example, they want 1 guy and already have a 1:48/4:12 guy lined-up) … if your high school running was intense some schools might project a limit of how much you can improve. But as I said first with those time (congrats!) you’re in great shape … I would think any school you contact will respond VERY favorably.</p>

<p>Sherpa got it exactly right. That’s what I meant. You may be the no. 1 recruit at Duke if the top 3 or 5 or whatever runners aren’t academically qualified for Duke (or may want to go to the top NCAA running school). This is hypothetical; I have no idea about the academic qualifications of the runners.</p>