whether to do ED to Holy Cross or Not

<p>So about me, im a senior in High School looking to apply I have an interest in marketing because of the psychological side and buyer behavior, i also like engineering because that degree can be applied to everything, and lastly premed for psychiatry. Now Initially i fell in love with holy cross ive been a million times and wanted to ED, but I recently visited pitt and Northeastern and not sure To ED to HC or to wait out regular decision which is impossible acceptance at holy cross because over 50% accepted is early decision</p>

<p>Pitt is huge with tons of people, has many options, such as business school and its hospital connection to PMC if i choose premed or if i choose engineering it has that...but i like the scene there is literally always something to do. Im not sure if the name or alumni is good for job market after though</p>

<p>Northeastern has great everything along with its amazing coop program and beautiful campus, but is a bit hipsterish for me</p>

<p>Holy Cross is a small school- liberal arts curriculum, the name and alumni network is what i like about this school it is so strong you are almost garunteed a job or wonderful internship after school. i hear you dont need a business degree and its better to have liberal arts and go into business especially since marketing can be self taught..? i dont know. but the only thing stopping me is i hear it gets boring, people get tired of each other and you just lose it because you get bored. there is also the 3:2 engineering program with columbia U </p>

<p>but im not sure what to do honestly so many things in both schools out weigh the other but essentially is it worth it to go to a "stale school" with great connections, or go to a school with a less reputable name and have a college experience and there is still a chance of getting a job. does school name even make that much of a difference in this instance. some one lay out the pros and cons to help me decide please. Thank you</p>

<p>SO in summary...is it worth doing early decision for the education and rigor? do i truly need a marketing degree? or should i choose a school that has more to offer socially and curriculum wise which would benefit my college experience, thus wait to do regular decision? if i should do regular decision which school would you choose? can anyone tell me more about holy cross social life that may sway me in a direction opposite from boring?</p>

<p>HC is much higher ranked than Pitt and much better academic reputation which will help with grad schooland job placement. You will get a more rigorous education at HC with small class sizes. Pitt is a very large school and will get your more typical big college experience with frats, sororities, semiprofessional sports, large classes, etc. Pitt accepts 58% of applicants. HC accepts 30%.</p>

<p>what about northeastern university though</p>

<p>I would take HC or NEU over Pitt any day of the week. HC’s pre-med is very reputable and its a very highly praised academic environment.</p>

<p>NEU can be very pre-professional. Their co-op program (esp. for engineering) is one of the best, if not the best, in the country. It’s basically in/near the heart of Boston, so it definitely has a leg up over HC if a vibrant campus surrounding is one of your concerns.</p>

<p>All in all I would say its a close one between NEU and HC. What are your stats?</p>

<p>If you think you might like engineering, you will have no way of finding out at Holy Cross. At NEU or Pitt you have more major/career options available to you.
If you are leaning towards business and an MBA or pre-med then Holy Cross would also be a good option. I know lots of wonderful Holy Cross grads :slight_smile:
I would prefer NEU or Pitt’s location over Holy Cross. I don’t think you are in a position to do a binding ED at Holy Cross given the questions you are posting at this point! ED is for students who are positive that they want to go to the ED school. I would suggest you apply RD while you do more research and soul-searching about what you really want.
Also, I laughed when you said Northeastern was “hipster” - NEU has such a broad set of colleges and majors so there is a HUGE spectrum of people there, I don’t think you’ll see lots of hipsters in the engineering department for example.
All three of your schools are excellent choices, but Pitt and NEU are very different types of schools than HC. So it can be tough to decide what is most important to you…</p>

<p>Holy Cross has a stronger academic reputation than Northeastern and Pitt. HC’s peer schools are Colgate, Bucknell, Trinity, W&M, Boston College, and Richmond. The Holy Cross alumni network is one of the best in the country. As noted HC has strong pre-med program and a tremendous business alumni network on Wall Street and corporate world.</p>

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<p>What are your numbers? HC’s mean SAT is 1950 (but is test optional, so the actual number would be lower.) Only 60% of HC’s frosh were in the top decile of their class.</p>

<p>Do you need to compare fin aid offers?</p>

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<p>Perhaps only Wharton or MIT can make that claim. Otherwise, take off those purple glasses. :)</p>

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<p>Few folks actually participate in 3/2 programs. Do you really want to leave your undergrad right at the start of your senior year?</p>

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<p>Only you can answer those questions.</p>

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<p>This.</p>

<p>Holy Cross is one of a few schools that is need-blind for admissions(ivies and duke also).</p>

<p>sure, but ED does not allow one to compare financial aid offers, does it?</p>

<p>ok, i dont believe early decision is for me at this point thanks for the insight. I am not applying for financial aid nor am i sending test scores to HC</p>

<p>2 comments since you mentioned engineering and premed. </p>

<p>3:2 programs are not what I’d recommend since few students actually end up completing them. After 3 years of college it just takes one more to get a degree and be done and most kids end up doing that. The alternative is to leave your friends behind and go to a new school where you don’t know any students or profs, enter into an unfamiliar system, etc. Its hard to say exactly how much is due to the 3:2 program itself since nationally 1/2 or more of those that start in engineering end up switching to something else, but I think its a factor.</p>

<p>As for premed, keep in mind that HC screens its applicants to med school. There is something called a committee letter that you are required to submit if your school offers it, and HC will tell you that your letter will say “recommended with reservations” or “not recommended” if they don’t think your odds of getting into med school are high enough; that’s how they get their huge success rate, by discouraging those with lesser chances from applying.</p>

<p>The Holy Cross medical alumni network includes a Nobel Prize winner and medical school deans. HC has one of the most loyal alumni networks with an annual giving rate of 56%(among the top10 in the country). Payscale consisently ranks Holy Cross as a leader for high income alumni. With a strong academic program, Div1 sports(HC plays more Ivies than any other non-Ivy school), need-blind admissions, Holy Cross offers a great combination.</p>

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<p>…is worthless, anecdotal so-called ‘data’, as anyone who took AP Stats would know. (And definitely is not worthy of discussion on cc, IMO.)</p>

<p>Ignore par72. He’s a 60+ year old Holy Cross alum who goes around reiterating the same useless statistics in a pathetic attempt to market his school. </p>

<p>HC is a great college. Unfortunately people like par72 do a disservice to it by obsessively trying to boost its reputation.</p>

<p>HC is indeed a great school as our its Catholic peers ND and Georgetown-3 of the oldest national resident Catholic schools.</p>

<p>OP should be targeting schools that combine engineering with a “LAC” feel - such as Union, Tufts, Bucknell, Lafayette. HC doesn’t meet his requirements…</p>

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<p>Way to completely miss the point.</p>

<p>Lehigh may be worth checking out.</p>

<p>Did you look into Boston College? It may be a reach if you’re looking at Holy Cross, but it has a similar feel and is much better academically. Also it would give you the opportunity to live in Boston.</p>

<p>For liberal arts,any of the top Catholic schools-Holy Cross, Notre Dame, and Georgetown will be good choices.</p>