<p><em>Shrug</em> 1900 is probably considered low, but when I visited Brown and I had a chance to talk to both students and admissions officers, the reoccurring thing I kept hearing was that “scores don’t always matter”. Therefore, I think that they look at more of who you are as a person.</p>
<p>“the Jordans and James and Kobe’s were never gotten a chance to play”</p>
<p>Are you suggesting that white and Asian students with outstanding talents comparable to Michael Jordan’s aren’t making it into Harvard? Because if so, then as a middle-class white Harvard admittee, I must be better at psychology and East Asian studies than Michael Jordan was at basketball. I appreciate the compliment, but I gently suggest that perhaps this analogy doesn’t hold water.</p>
<p>If there were racial affirmative action in the NBA, it wouldn’t affect Michael and Kobe; it would affect the 12th man on the Raptors and Timberwolves. If rejectees imagine themselves as academic Michaels and Kobes, no wonder they’re unable to come to terms with the rejection! You’re not. No one on this thread is Michael or Kobe. We’re the 12th man on the Raptors, we’re not that special, and it is no loss to the NBA if they pick somebody else instead of us.</p>
<p>Hey let’s take a hypothetical situation that will never occur in real life (as if the Ivies will ever discount things like legacies, athletes, ECs, etc.) and use it to act our our innner frustrations about the world we live in.</p>
<p>Here is MY hypothetical; riddle me this:</p>
<p>Candidiate A: latchkey kid with a single parent who’s working 2 jobs; latchkey kid; works part-time to help support 2 younger brothers and sisters; no computer at home; school has no study classes for SAT prep; scored a 2035 on the SAT</p>
<p>Candidiate B: comes home from school to stay at home colege educated Dad; takes gymnastics cources after school; has 2 computers at home and parents who know how to use them well; private school has SAT prep classes; scored a 2220 on the SAT</p>
<p>You are an admissions dean at an HYPed school. </p>
<p>When you evaluate the SAT scores, do you take into account the differing life situations or do you just go by the numbers?</p>
<p>I think Brown particularly looks for self-motivated, self-directed students who will thrive in their open curriculum – the kind who would rather backpack a trip on their own rather than join a package tour. Not every student can thrive in an environment that offers too many choices with too few restrictions.</p>
<p>Hahahahaha. I legitimately lol’ed at Haddon1267. You don’t know the first thing about me. I’m certainly not a thug, nor am I a bully. You are far too sensitive. You missed my point entirely. My point is, unless you plan to do something about it, there is no purpose in complaining. Yes, you can cry injustice to a group of your peers, but you accomplish nothing. And I truly believe that any person who is competitive in ivy league applications, is eligible for admission at comparative schools. I think the problem comes in due to this obsession with attending an ivy league. No person, asian or black or native american, is entitled to an ivy league acceptance. In moving on, you will be happier. You leave all those toxic feelings behind, so you can finally enjoy the prospect of college, wherever you matriculate. Do not be bitter or resentful, because it fuels racism and hate. And I am absolutely SICK of people belittling others; telling them that they don’t deserve their acceptances. That is so rude, jealous, arrogant, and selfish. You do not know all their qualifications, so don’t judge them. Perhaps Harvard saw the negative, hateful, and obsessive energy Candidate 1 possessed because I can feel it through this thread. Remember, they admit based on good personal qualities as well. A sense of entitlement and spitefulness are not desired.</p>
<p>I won’t get wrapped up in this debate, but I’d like to point something out. Look at the tags of this thread at the bottom of the page: “stupidity, the art of ■■■■■■■■, the science of ■■■■■■■■.” The OP got you guys good.</p>
<p>candidate 2 because a black guy with stats like that is very rare VS an asian with those stats. Its not the asian is playing against the black guy… its the asian playing against other asians with those very common stats.</p>