<p>^EDIT: QUALIFIED Caucasian male professors</p>
<p>LOL 33 is sub-par? Someone needs to get over him/herself.</p>
<p>Yes, but when race plays a role in their appointments as professors, what makes you think they’re qualified to be professors? If you accept a university’s decision to hire a black professor, why don’t you accept its decision to accept black students? Race can be an equally important factor in both cases.</p>
<p>I’ve seen 29s get accepted. And for Columbia’s standards, yes, a 33 is sub-par. Don’t hate the player; hate the game.</p>
<p>LOL you’re not very smart liv4physicz. A 33 is a great score for any college.</p>
<p>No, 33 is not sub-par by any stretch of the imagination.</p>
<p>When a school is regarded as the top in the world, I trust that the education one would receive there represents just that. If they happen to achieve this standard with the means of hiring black and female professors, alright. I have no say in who they feel is worthy of representing their school and educating future graduates. That is a separate issue. Affirmative Action is wrong. Admittance to a less-qualified black person and rejection to a qualified Asian is WRONG.</p>
<p>I’d like to think I’m smart, woeishe. By Columbia, Brown, and Harvard standards, a 33 is nothing out of the ordinary.</p>
<p>^We know that already. We were arguing about you saying a 33 is sub-par, which it is absolutely not. </p>
<p>Colleges have AA because some groups are underrepresented. In the south, asians are underrepresented at places like Vandy so asians have AA there.</p>
<p>Race. Shouldn’t. Be. A. Factor.</p>
<p>Who cares what the color of a person’s skin is!? We are all equals, with equal capacities to make the most of our high school years, and should be treated as such.</p>
<p>A 33 is not amazing for Ivy League schools, period.</p>
<p>^ We know. But it is not sub-par either. No score is amazing for Ivies, considering the top 25% had 35/36</p>
<p>If Harvard took 100% Asians because they are more qualified than everyone else, who would want to go there?
If Harvard took 100% Caucasians because they are considered as qualified as Asians but the class can be filled with all Caucasians (was nt it this way at one time?) who would want to go there?</p>
<p>For the Ivies, a 33 is on the low side. As you said, 1/4 of students get 35+.</p>
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<p>Schools are represented by their students and alumni, not by their professors.</p>
<p>Also, if hiring black and female professors is instrumental to achieving a higher educational standard, what makes you think accepting students from under-represented minorities cannot serve the same purpose?</p>
<p>May the crux of the issue be the fact that you feel personally disadvantaged by affirmative action for students, while ethnic diversity in the work place doesn’t really concern you? May it be that your objections are driven primarily by self-interest? Oh, the ignominy.</p>
<p>And what does underqualified mean? How do you define qualifiedness? A straight-A student with a 2400 on the SAT who sees grades and test scores as the only reliable measure of personal worth is much less qualified to attend college in my book than a student with a 3.7 GPA and a 2100 on the SAT who has an actual idea of what life outside of high school is like.</p>
<p>And if affirmative action is WRONG, why is it still happening despite your desperate attempts to erase it from existence with the power of your moral indignation? Is the universe really not paying attention to the wailing voices of the downtrodden?</p>
<p>I think I can hear the world’s smallest violin playing in the distance…</p>
<p>Harvard’s rank would probably plummet(drop 20 spots?)</p>
<p>texaspg, I would. Who cares what race the students are? They should admit those whose scores/ECs/essays/recs/etc. qualify them, and reject those whose don’t.</p>
<p>^ Plenty of people care. You certainly do.</p>
<p>^ yeah, 33-36 is usually the range for Ivies</p>
<p>For non-hooked students that is.</p>
<p>Ghostt, I wouldn’t agree with it even if I was a URM. It is wrong. Period. I’m not the only one who has morals and believes this. And what are you talking about? I don’t play the violin.</p>
<p>^ LOL morals, supporting AA or not isn’t a morality issue.</p>