Which college/uni did a fantastic job on your tour/day visit? And not so good?

<p>Well, we've visited 7 colleges so far all over the United States. I appreciate the ones where you can sign up and confirm via email...all online and immediately see what's full and what's not. Plus an agenda to include an admissions and a financial aid briefing. The ones that have mock classes or let you attend classes along with eating in the school's dining facilities and seeing dorm rooms was a huge plus. I guess all tourguides are taught to walk backwards?</p>

<p>Our favorite so far was CU Boulder. Along with the 100 or so other people they made each one of us feel special. Nice continental breakfast. Each student received a backpack and tshirt along with a folder of stuff including a schedule. Nice admissions briefing and overall info about the school. Glitzy video. Tours split up into much smaller groups with funny and knowledgeable tourguides. Looked in dorm room (okay so it was a mock up), listened to a mock lecture, toured most of the buildings and ate in their award winning international dining facility. The parents had a panel discussion with students and our kids vice versa. I thought it was refreshing that the students who spoke with us were very honest and open, even with their trip ups and failures. Plus it was a good mix of different kinds of students. My favorite question I always ask is what is the most challenging thing you faced since you've been here and how did you overcome it....heard everything from academic to social to whatever, no holds barred. We also had a nice financial aid briefing as well and made contact with our state/regional admissions counselor. So even though the #s were large for this event, they worked it like clockwork and had smaller groups, personalized guidance and made the kids feel special.</p>

<p>The not so nice was Berkeley. They were helpful in telling us what parking garage to park in. Had to walk thru an iffy part of town to get there, bums and grafitti everywhere. Jammed into a small room for a lackluster admissions brief, lackluster tour that seemed to skip over things. Had to find a dirty pizza joint just off campus for lunch and just generally unhelpful people who seemed to care less if you would go there. The clincher was a bum who poked me on the arm as we were on our tour (lagging behind a bit) and said "pssst....you definitely do not want to go here." My son crossed it off his list right then!</p>

<p>“The not so nice was Berkeley. They were helpful in telling us what parking garage to park in. Had to walk thru an iffy part of town to get there, bums and grafitti everywhere. Jammed into a small room for a lackluster admissions brief, lackluster tour that seemed to skip over things. Had to find a dirty pizza joint just off campus for lunch and just generally unhelpful people who seemed to care less if you would go there. The clincher was a bum who poked me on the arm as we were on our tour (lagging behind a bit) and said “pssst…you definitely do not want to go here.” My son crossed it off his list right then!”</p>

<p>You got the good tour. Ours was as bad or worse. The homeless people were not the problem, but to your point that the administrators clearly could care less if you went to Cal or not. We sat in that small room and got droned anti-pitch too. Our tour guide was a robot and all she wanted to talk about was the free speech movement in the 60’s that took place on campus, as if nothing had happened there since.</p>

<p>Having been on about 30 different college tours, east/midwest/west, over the years, no school came anywhere close to being as bad as the Cal presentation and tour. It was in a class unto itself.</p>

<p>Worst experiences:</p>

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<li><p>Brandeis - Overview session was so horrible, D had us walk out for the only time in our college tours. Thought it might have been the presenter, but even when the road show came to town, D was completely turned off by a different presenter. And on paper, she really liked the school. We’ve talked to others who’ve had the same experience - they definitely have a problem.</p></li>
<li><p>Penn - We were five minutes late for the walking tour and no one could tell us where to catch up to them, nor did they care. I have a good sense of direction, so I made a good guess of where to find them, and we joined in a tour. Unfortunately, we caught a tour led by someone who couldn’t stop talking about her sorority. Overall left a bad impression, but we weren’t serious about going there anyway - too much of a reach. It also didn’t help that they were importing busloads of kids who obviously had no chance of being admitted and they knew it. Completely bored and disruptive in any presentation.</p></li>
<li><p>U of Rochester - Road construction made it impossible to get to campus following the instructions on the website. You couldn’t get there from here, though we could see the campus on the other side of the highway. Totally frustrating and panic inducing, as we were on a tight schedule and it put everyone in a bad mood. Never could get D to seriously consider the school after that, although she did apply and get in, it was just at the bottom of her list. First impressions do count.</p></li>
<li><p>Haverford - Really like the school, but the experience of having a protester stop the tour and give his speech was more than a little off-putting. I know they have the honor code and all that, but they really need to not have the students do that to prospective students and parents, especially when it’s all about an issue involving the protester’s girlfriend and her immigration status, which none of us really cared about.</p></li>
<li><p>Connecticut College - The tour guide was very proud that activists had forced the cafeteria to buy cruelty-free bananas. And they had forced them to buy local produce with a low carbon footprint. I wanted to ask about when they would be having a protest to force the buying of local cruelty-free bananas, but decided he wouldn’t see the humor in that.</p></li>
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<p>Best experience:</p>

<p>Tufts - Tour guide was informative and hilarious and honest. Really made D love the school, we just had to tell her she had no realistic chance. Took her a long time to get over that one, though it’s still her brother’s favorite school and his #1 pick even though he’s in 8th grade.</p>

<p>Campus Tours I went on ranked from most impressive to least impressive</p>

<p>Favorite:
William and Mary
Northeastern
Brandeis
Yale</p>

<p>Above Average:
Lafayette
Hamilton College</p>

<p>Average:
Tufts University
Boston University
Wesleyan
UVA
Fordham, Lincoln Center</p>

<p>Really wanted to leave
Boston College
Bucknell
NYU
GWU
Connecticut College</p>

<p>Some of these ended up being out of personal preferences and visiting sometimes changed whether I thought a school would be a fit for me. The tour guides themselves definitely have an impact. When all the dust settled, I think I ended up in exactly the right place, so I’m really happy I took all that time to tour and find the right school</p>

<p>I might post an updated version of this with details about each individual tour later</p>

<p>U of Chicago was terrific. Funny, informative, concise, inspirational, self-deprecating in a humorous way.<br>
Williams: walked in and tried to introduce ourselves after a 6 hour drive–there was no one else there and nothing going on, but the receptionist did not look up and interrupted to say "just sign in over there.’ Off putting but the subsequent tour and info session were really great.
Bowdoin: friendly, nice, warm, welcoming.
Swarthmore: precious. Somehow this statement “If you can’t handle diversity–no, if you don’t love diversity, don’t come here,” was pretty self-satisfied. But then, after hearing only very smartest people attend my kid decided he didn’t want to be with the very smartest.<br>
Carleton: the info session was really uninspiring. Surprisingly so. The 15 minute film on Carleton was much better than the presentation.<br>
Haverford: terrific. Friendly, welcoming, intelligent guides and students.</p>

<p>We visited more than 20 schools. Some memorable ones for us:</p>

<p>Best Experience:</p>

<p>Northeastern: Toured on a formal visitation day, HUGE turnout. They handled the crowds expertly, and we felt welcome by everyone starting right with the parking attendant. Registration was amazing and efficient, and a beautiful continental breakfast started things off right. They even added another large general information session on the fly to handle the crowds and never missed a beat. The whole school was a surprise to us, as we never expected the campus feel and green space in the middle of Boston. We visited three more times after that first experience, and ultimately my son selected Northeastern and is very happy there.</p>

<p>Good:</p>

<p>University of Rochester: Toured on a formal visitation day. Lack of parking on campus meant taking a shuttle from remote parking, but they ran a great general info session and they gave a nice tour. Although the day was well done, the school didn’t “click” with my son and he did not apply. </p>

<p>University at Albany (SUNY): This was our safety school, and they did a really good job with their information sessions and tours. I liked Albany’s tour much better than SUNY Binghamton. Ironically, though, it highlighted the shortcomings of the College of Nanoscale Science and Engineering (CNSE) Albany campus, now known as SUNY Polytechnic, where my son would take his classes. He turned down a full-ride scholarship from them when it became clear how disorganized and amateurish they were. The CNSE/SUNY Poly tour emphasizes the billions in investments in clean rooms and chip fabrication research, but spends precious little time on the student experience.</p>

<p>Franklin & Marshall: My son loved this campus and the tour, applied and was accepted. He eliminated them in the final cut since they don’t provide any merit aid and it wasn’t worth sticker price to attend.</p>

<p>Worst experience:</p>

<p>Boston College: Started out bad when we had to walk WAY out of our way around a line of 6 buses and heavy security at the football stadium. Why? The football team was heading out for a road game. You’d have thought the President was there, with all the police and security. I did not like the impression of a sports team being treated like royalty. We got there early, and asked the nuns at the info desk where we could get a bite to eat for lunch. They sent us to a dining facility that felt like a dungeon. The food was not good, WAY expensive, and the staff was crabby. The information session was BORING. Seemed like half of the incoming students were prospective student athletes, strutting around in their high school varsity jackets. They have a beautiful campus, but we hated the vibe. </p>

<p>Other bad events:</p>

<p>RPI: Worst general info session EVER. Boring speaker, uninformative session. Don’t know why anyone would apply after hearing that.</p>

<p>RIT: We were turned off right at the information session, when the speaker told everyone that they had to apply for their specific major, and warned not think you could change majors later. Seemed too rigid. Huge campus in the middle of nowhere, and you’d better like brick buildings that all look the same.</p>

<p>Princeton: Tour seemed to assume EVERYONE would want to go there. Riffed for too long on how great their supper clubs are. Seemed elitist and snobby. The tour group was WAY too big and people could not hear. Completely forgettable in every way. </p>

<p>Olin: Went on a formal visitation day. The material said registration and tours start at 10:30… so guess what? Hundreds of people showed up for 10:30, took a 20 minute tour (there are only 5 buildings total on campus), and were waiting in the auditorium by 11:00. The school had not scheduled any formal presentations until noon! The Dean took the stage at 11:15, and told the crowd he didn’t understand why people were there so early when the schedule said events started at noon. With a couple hundred parents and students sitting there with nothing else to do, the Dean ad-libbed for a half hour about how great Olin is, then did pretty much the same thing again at the formal event at noon. The students were smart and enthusiastic and represented their school well, though. This is one of those schools where, in retrospect, I’m not even sure why my son bothered to apply. We threw away 80 bucks on a rejection.</p>

<p>SUNY Geneseo: We went on a beautiful spring day when no tours were offered, as they were preparing for an accepted students event the following day. Fortunately we knew a student there that gave us an informal tour. They have a cute campus in a nice small town, but the funniest thing was the breeze coming up the hill from the farm fields below… carrying the overpowering smell of freshly spread cow manure throughout the entire town! LOL! I bet they were praying for a wind shift before their big accepted students day!</p>

<p>All in all, this was a great experience to go through with my kid. Even the schools we didn’t like taught us something about what factors were important to my son, and I don’t regret any of our visits. In fact, it was harder to draw the line and say “enough,” thinking that we might have missed a school that would be even better!</p>

<p>The Tufts information session was a transformative experience for our group. Ok, that’s a little overboard, but Meredith Reynolds’ presentation was by far the best we’ve seen and probably the only one that really “moved the needle”. Most selective schools’ presentations are pompous, dry and basically just present content you can find on the internet. </p>

<p>Meredith was entertaining (actually hilarious), full of “insider” information about what Tufts is really looking for, and presented compelling anecdotes/examples of actual research performed by undergraduates. Most schools just say “Really, we promise, you will do research!” without really elaborating.</p>

<p>The tour was kind of a dud- a frat boy who just kind of wandered around campus and focused on fraternity life even though no one was asking.</p>

<p>It is too bad D had applied early to Brown already, I think the presentation might have changed her mind about her first choice.</p>

<p>I’ll also say that the Carleton presentation (part of a group event with Bowdoin, Swarthmore and Pomona) was a similar experience. Adam Webster is a Rock Star that could Sell Ice To Eskimos, as long as they are “quirky”. He really had us Drinking The Kool-Aid and did something with a Kimono.</p>

<p>Harvard, Columbia, Swarthmore, Penn, JHU, Wesleyan, MIT were all pretty useless. Brown’s was good but not great.</p>

<p>My D had the same sort of transformative, needle-moving info session a couple of years ago at Tufts, led but the renowned Dan Grayson. She switched her ED choice of school then and there.</p>

<p>D and me toured Tufts, NYU, Duke, Johns Hopkins, Carniege Mellon, Northeastern, UNC, Duke, Georgetown, American, GW,and our best tour was Georgia Tech…tossed in at the last minute as we were going through Atlanta…an incredibly beautiful campus, a wonderful info session, and a chance to meet both professors & students…D is still set on Georgetown but GT also rose to the top 5. </p>

<p>Tufts -as others have noted - was also excellent. </p>

<p>It amazes me that the admissions departments in so many places do such a lackluster job with the tours. Some of the students we had leading tours were amazing, and their enthusiasm was genuine and contagious. Some of them seemed to have gotten the job only because they could walk backwards. My daughter had a lot of friends who were a year older, and went to schools she was also interested in exploring, and we felt that we got a better view of campuses by meeting up with them after the official tours to get the insider info.</p>

<p>I’ve visited >25 schools from two rounds of applications. I’m just going to list the ones that stood out:</p>

<p>Great:
Emerson
University of Rochester
Vassar
WPI
Williams</p>

<p>Not-So-Great:
Clarkson
Northeastern
Trinity</p>

<p>Just my opinion.</p>

<p>Thanks for sharing!</p>