Which colleges should be added to CC Top Universities?

<p>Bowdoin is there, look at the column on the right.</p>

<p>ucsd should be there (with a lot of bias)</p>

<p>UT Austin :) :)</p>

<p>Tufts, UT Austin, Illinois, and Wisconsin.</p>

<p>I think the list is good and should not be diluted.</p>

<p>I say for now USC, NYU and UT austin (all the schools I applied to.. woot) If they have University of North Carolina - Chapel Hill , I don't see why they skipped Tufts.</p>

<p>USC should be there.</p>

<p>Boston College?</p>

<p>Tufts, McGill, Brandeis</p>

<p>Yeah, if you include Vanderbilt and Emory, you cannot exclude Tufts. (And all should be there.)</p>

<p>Perfect thread for me to make my first post. </p>

<p>My vote is for Tufts.</p>

<p>(FYI, I am a recent Tufts alumnus, interviewer and current MIT Sloan MBA student. Why am I on this message board? As an interviewer who's somewhat removed from the college application process, I wanted to make sure I wasn't totally out of the loop when interviewing prospective students).</p>

<p>I am quite surprised that Tufts isn't in the CC top schools list. In my honest opinion, Tufts doesn't fair well in any of the rankings because of its lackluster graduate programs. Aside from the medical school, Fletcher, PT, and philosophy programs, Tufts just does not compete with other top research universities on the graduate level. I know of only a handful of my Tufts peers who went on to graduate studies at Tufts...most attend schools with better programs. Why do you think Tufts peer assessment score is so low? Small research university = poor grad programs = less exposure = low peer assessment scores. </p>

<p>HOWEVER, this message board is for the undergrad experience, not the graduate one. A 3.6 peer assessment score certainly cannot be blamed on an underachieving undergraduate student body. I could throw out plenty of numbers to support that assertion (such as an avg SAT of 1418 for the class of 2009, etc, etc.). There's no doubt in my mind that if Tufts were to become a college and shed its graduate programs (save Tufts Medical, Dental, Vet and the Fletcher School) it would be considered among the top colleges in the country. </p>

<p>anyways, you can probably guess what my personal opinion is on the US News Rankings. </p>

<p>that's my $.02</p>

<p>Tufts suffers from an endowment that is simply not "major league."--only a fraction of the average of the top universities on the board</p>

<p>Wake Forest and William and Mary should certainly be added to the top liberal arts colleges. I sense an anti-Southern bias here.</p>

<p>jackal15 --</p>

<p>As I said, I do think Tufts should be added. </p>

<p>For the record, though, that 1418 average SAT number struck me as a little high. I do see that figure on the Tufts Website. On a closer look, however, I think that number for students accepted to the Class of 2009 -- not for those who actually enroll. Note that there is a Dean's Welcome to what is clearly the actual Class of 2009 -- the welcome statement gives precise enrollment figures -- that lists average SATs for those enrolled as 691V and 701M. That seems the right ballpark.</p>

<p>And, yes, Tufts's endowment does seriously lag.</p>

<p>Wesdad,</p>

<p>I obtained the SAT figures from the brochure sent out to interviewers in December and an email from the admissions office. I'm positive I read it correctly...why the discrepancy exists, I have no idea. The admissions website is clearly behind the times, so I wouldnt trust the figures it cites. I don't have the brochure with me at the moment, but I'll double check. </p>

<p>As far as endowment goes.... In 04-05 the endowment was approaching $900M...clearly lower than those of its supposed peer institutions. I assume that over the past 2 fiscal years, given the hot market and $100M gift from alum Pierre Omidyar (eBay founder), it has grown substantially. IMHO, an endowment of $1.5B-$2B really wouldnt markedly affect the undergraduate experience. I know there are benefits to a weighty endowment, such as increased financial aid, infrastructure investment and (most importantly) better faculty retention, but I still have an issue with it being thrown around as such a determiner of a school's overall quality.</p>

<p>Tufts!!! If Rice, Brown, Cornell, and Emory are on the list (and I think they all should be) Tufts should be too!!! Many people will get rejected by Tufts and accepted by one of these schools and vice versa. Also, whether you like it or not, it is a major university. Its endowment is growing and recently crossed the 1 billion threshold. It also has pioneered innovative strategies for raising money, such as the new microfinance program.</p>

<p>The top-50 from both categories.</p>

<p>Wake Forest should definately be on the list. Last year it was ranked better than CH and this year it is tied with it. Wake's only going up in the rankings over the next few years.</p>

<p>"Tufts!!! If Rice, Brown, Cornell, and Emory are on the list (and I think they all should be) Tufts should be too!!! Many people will get rejected by Tufts and accepted by one of these schools and vice versa."</p>

<p>Ever heard of the Tufts Syndrome? That may explain why they reject applicants who get into Brown.</p>

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<p>I dunno, that didn't happen to me.</p>