<p>Just curious, and anyone know, generally, how hard it is to do so, the requirements, etc.?</p>
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<p>A quick scan shows the following CAS departments allow submatriculation:
AMES, English, Math, French, Spanish, SARS, Urban Studies, Law. </p>
<p>SEAS and the School of Education have programs as well.</p>
<p>Academically, it looks like you'll need a 3.4-3.5 GPA at the end of sophomore year when you apply. Some departments require you to take the honors track for the undergrad degree. Some departments also require that you get As in the courses that "double count". Some require you finish both degrees in the regular 4 years, others allow 5 years.</p>
<p>My own humble opinion - don't rush things. Do your regular 4 years and look for another grad school, particularly if you're going through the PhD. Most universities do not accept their own undergrads into the same department's grad program for a good reason - your point of view on the subject will become too narrow.</p>
<p>Besides, after 4 years you'll probably be sick of Penn and West Philly.</p>
<p>yeh, I know; I was just curious.</p>
<p>I have some disagreement w/ WilliamC in that I don't see submatric as rushing things. Firstly one may be stuck in Philly for at least three years and when one looks at the options of double/dual/joint degrees then one would also consider submatric. I see no reason why a student would need to extend beyond 4 years to submatric into Fels as an example. Students who come into Penn having met requirements or have taken more than 5 courses per term would surely want some additional academic challenge and I believe that submatric offers this. In no way does this require more time on campus.</p>
<p>Submatric is very competitive at Penn - you'll have to do really well the first two year.</p>
<p>most students looking to submatric have achieved at a high level.....moved ahead of the pack and have developed an interest. I cannot imagine that someone with middling stats would be considering taking on more burdens of work just to say that they were submatriculating. I take folks on CC at their word....asking what programs would be available.</p>
<p>All Penn students can apply to submat into the Law School.</p>
<p>Only Wharton students can apply to submat into the MBA or PhD programs at Wharton.</p>