<p>No I meant look at who's #2 on those rankings you just posted, for UG Finance, UG Accounting, and UG Marketing. It's Indiana!</p>
<p>futurenyustudent - I don't know what rankings you are looking at, but Gourman's clearly show who he has ranked ahead. Gourman knows more than most, as he has methodology to his rankings and inside sources which know what companies think of each school.</p>
<p>Rankings are stupid. They can be manipulated so many which ways you can't really tell what they measure.</p>
<p>Good answer.... it's what i've come to expect out of people who don't know what they're talking about.</p>
<p>Physical sciences among the Ivies, number of 2004 IPEDS graduates in Physics, Chemistry, Geology combined:</p>
<p>Harvard 94
Cornell 82
Dartmouth 55
Columbia 49
Princeton 40
Brown 37
Penn 32
Yale 31</p>
<p>number of English graduates at the Ivies:
Columbia 162
Harvard 128
Yale 114
Cornell 111
Penn 107
Dartmouth 85
Princeton 84
Brown 63</p>
<p>sorry to dig up an old thread. anyone has the gourman report list for:</p>
<p>business administration
information science
management
communication</p>
<p>Egyptology-Brown</p>
<p>Gourman Report ranking for undergraduate Finance:</p>
<p>U Pennsylvania
Indiana U Bloomington
U Michigan Ann Arbor
UC Berkeley
NYU
U Texas Austin
U Illinois Urbana Champaign
U Wisconsin Madison
Purdue U West Lafayette
U Washington
Michigan State
UVA
CUNY Baruch
Washington U St Louis
Case Western
USC
U Houston
Penn State University Park
Texas A&M
Notre Dame
Ohio State
U Florida
U Arizona
U Utah
Emory U
Louisiana St Baton Rouge
U Mass Amherst
U Minnesota
Southern Methodist
U Oregon
U Maryland College Park (score=4.31)
Lehigh
Arizona State
U Misouri Columbia
George Washington U
Syracuse U
Geoegia State
U Colorado Boulder
Templu U
U Iowa
U Denver
U South Carolina Columbia
U Nebraska Lincoln
U Georgia</p>
<p>Gourman Report rankings for undergraduate accounting:</p>
<p>U Penn
Indiana
Michigan
Berkeley
Texas Austin
NYU
Notre Dame
Illinois
Purdue
Wisconsin
U Washington
Michigan St
UVA
CUNY Baruch
U Minn
washington U St Louis
Case Western
USC
U Houston
Penn St
Ohio St
Texas A&M
Utah
Lehigh
Florida
Southern Meth
U Mass Amherst
U Arizona
Louisiana St
Temple
Maryland (score=4.27)
Georgia St
South Carolina
Oregon
George Wash
SUNY Buffalo
Missouri
Colorado
Arizona St
Iowa
Emory</p>
<p>Gourman ranking for Communications</p>
<p>Northwestern
Stanford
U Penn
U Michigan Ann Arbor
USC
U Iowa
Michigan State
U Texas Austin
Syracuse
Florida State
U Wisconsin Madison
U Washington
Ohio State
U Minnesota
Purdue West Lafayette
SUNY Buffalo
U Mass Amherst
Ohio U
Wayne State</p>
<p>Gourman Report ranking for undergraduate marketing:</p>
<p>U Penn
Indiana U Bloomington
U Michigan Ann Arbor
UC Berkeley
NYU
U Illinois Urbana Champaign
Michigan State
Purdue U West Lafayette
U Washington
u Wisconsin Madison
UVA
CUNY Baruch
U Minnesota
Washington U St Louis
Case Western
U Houston
Penn State UP
USC
Texas A&M
U Florida
Ohio State Columbus
Notre Dame
Southern Methodist
Lehigh
U Utah
Emory
Louisiana St
U Mass Amherst
U Oregon
U Arizona
U Maryland College Park (score=4.30)
U Iowa
Georgia State
Arizona St
Syracuse
George Washington U
U Colorado Boulder
U Denver
U South Carolina Columbia
U Georgia
U Nebraska Lincoln</p>
<p>
Actually, Penn blows Brown out of the water for Egyptology. Historically Yale has as well, though that might change now that Brown finally has more than one Egyptologist on staff.</p>
<p>How can Penn blow Brown out of the water for Egyptology when Penn doesn’t have an Egyptology department?</p>
<p>
When we research before we type, we avoid the risk of looking ignorant – especially about our own school.</p>
<p>[Penn</a> ANE](<a href=“http://www.sas.upenn.edu/nelc/ane_req.htm#egypt]Penn”>http://www.sas.upenn.edu/nelc/ane_req.htm#egypt)</p>
<p>[ul][<em>]Brown’s “department” of Egyptology consisted, until last year, of one professor. Penn has always maintained a minimum of 3.
[</em>]Penn’s collection of Egyptian antiquities is by far the largest in the western hemisphere and one of the 5 largest outside Egypt.
[<em>]Penn had been running massive excavations in Egypt and the Near East for over 70 years before the Egyptology department at Brown was founded.
[</em>]Penn has produced the likes of Zahi Hawass, Janet Richards, Lanny Bell, Ellen Morris, and Stephen Harvey. Brown has failed to produce a single notable Egyptologist.[/ul]</p>
<p>^^^because at Penn, Egyptology is in the Near Eastern Languages & Civilizations Department, just as it is at Chicago, UCLA, Yale, and most other American unis that offer the subject.</p>
<p>
Precisely. Brown has clung to its title of having the only Egyptology department, but that has traditionally been a fig leaf hiding an embarrassingly weak program with scant resources in Egypt and virtually none in the rest of the Near East.</p>
<p>Fortunately, Brown has recently seen that it is falling far behind other schools in this area and has recruited new faculty (recently minted PhDs, admittedly, but still an improvement). In order to maintain one of its bragging points, Brown has predictably adjusted the department title to Egyptology & Ancient Western Asian Studies instead of the traditional Near Eastern Studies.</p>
<p>While I may not be the most qualified to talk about Brown’s Egyptology Dept., I am a first year at Brown taking two Egyptology (one technically in the Joukowsky Institute for Archaeology & the Ancient World ) courses and I am heavily considering concentrating in the subject. Sure other Universities may have more resources (at Brown we are used to that) but I still don’t think you can say that it isn’t one of Brown’s token and unique departments that shines above many other schools. Compared to other Ivies like UPenn and Yale and even other schools like UCLA and UChicago sure it may not have the same notoriety but it is certainly nothing to scoff at especially when most schools don’t even offer the subject. The classes I am taking now are taught by AMAZING professors (both Egyptologists) and my Middle Egyptian I Professor even wrote our textbook! It is certainly a GREAT place to get a start in Egyptology and continue elsewhere for a graduate degree. As with almost all students here at Brown, we did not choose to come because it had the best department of its kind in either the Ivy League or nationally or by whatever ranking you choose, but rather because of the curriculum offered and great education you could receive in any of the departments. I believe most people come to Brown to explore in different areas and then continue onto those top Graduate schools to get that “notable” degree.</p>
<p>GameDude, note that I was talking about the department as it has been historically – NOT how it is now or will be. It’s quite a good department now that they’ve expanded it, and as you pointed out, Jim Allen was of course a good recruitment. Laurel’s new project at Abydos is also good for Brown, since it hasn’t had a field project in Egypt as far back as I can remember. </p>
<p>I have personal ties to Brown, so it’s not like I have a reason to unnecessarily bash the program. I am glad to hear of your interest in the subject, and by all means, concentrate in it. Far too few undergrads at any school are interested in such esoteric subjects.</p>
<p>(I highly recommend classes with Omur Harmansah and Sue Alcock as well, by the way.)</p>
<p>again, sorry to dig this up but does anyone have the undergrad rankings for comparative literature?</p>
<p>
Comparative Literature NRC ranking</p>
<p>1 Yale<br>
2 Duke<br>
3 Columbia<br>
4 Harvard<br>
5 Princeton<br>
6 Cornell<br>
7 Johns Hopkins<br>
8 UC Irvine<br>
9 Stanford<br>
10 UC Berkeley<br>
11 Penn<br>
12 Chicago<br>
13 NYU<br>
14 Washington<br>
15 Michigan<br>
16 UCLA<br>
17 Northwestern<br>
18 UC San Diego<br>
19 Indiana<br>
20 Brown</p>