<p>Because they reqruit in ghetto schools like where my kid was, if you can do art music drama and minority, they’d bus you in for minority-deprived visit day, give slack on SAT score, so white bread school can say we are diverse! helping those otherwise have no opportunities!
Do you have the numbers how many of those kids are graduating with OK grades or accepted into certain circle of clubs or gathering thing?
I am not talking about the color of the skin alone. it’s culture thing, not what you can see but could not see.
how you spell reqruit? reqluit? riqruit?</p>
<p>oh, recruit, is it</p>
<p>PS you might have issue with Ohio’s surface diversity but there would be a white kid of farmer’s or those humongous factories’ line worker’s which would be hard to come by in NYC. It is about people’s lives, where and how they grow up, went to grade schools, how many siblings, etc etc
It should never be the % or $ or rankings of any sort
but hey. that’s how it is.</p>
<p>I don’t know how the kids do one way or the other but the ones I know were good students from a magnet school that was very diverse so I except most are doing fine. But we don’t know the background of woody who is just asking questions about 6 or so schools that he/she has been accepted to. </p>
<p>I think having a discussion about how effective the affirmative action process is at any of these schools is not going to help Woody out here. We could certainly have that discussion on another thread but I think Woody just wanted some feedback on how liberal the student body would be and how good the studio art courses would be. From the list I’m just advising that Brandeis (waitlisted) and Skidmore (accepted) are numbered properly (1 and 3) and probably the stronger choices in both respects. Don’t know about number 2.</p>
<p>I’m originally from rural US farming family so quite aware of this. However, after looking at the selections available for this particular person coming from India I could see that the Ohio schools might not be as “liberal” in terms of student body. In fact one is a religious Lutheran school and being not religious but raised Lutheran I have a feeling that particular school wouldn’t be so liberal in attitudes. That’s all I meant.</p>
<p>Don’t you think OP researched and made lists where to apply using whatever the category she wanted more than other? Or scores/grades/money set the ceiling?
I am not saying Skidmore is wrong for her, just wrong for me, in fact I am not pushing any school in particular because I don’t know them all.
I just liked Knox and yes, they do make effort to recruit internationals to make it diverse, my tour guide was the one from South America, Admission counselor had accents, you never know.</p>
<p>If you read the first post you’ll see what questions were being asked.
I don’t know about Knox, will have to look that one up.
But don’t be so hard on the schools that implement diversity
through recruiting in inner cities. I know kids who struggled through
those programs initially but actually ended up with life changing experiences.
Doesn’t work for everyone and certainly can be a difficult transition and
especially as you say, culturally a big change but it’s not a bad thing to
benefit on both sides in a way. And at least they’re trying, I remember when
the attempt simply wasn’t made at many of these schools.</p>
<p>Thanks again artsmarts ! </p>
<p>and yeah, i was just looking for some feedback… getting personal responces makes it all the more difficult to make my choice. I mean one never knows if this is just the case with one individual.</p>
<p>but thanks all.</p>
<p>Artsmarts… i would however like some further help in comparing Franklin and Marshall and Skidmore.</p>
<p>It would be great if u could look that up and give me ur thoughts.</p>
<p>U have really helped me out so far!</p>
<p>=)</p>
<p>cheers !</p>
<p>I don’t know anything about Franklin and Marshall. I took a look and the one thing I noticed was that they seemed to have a very small number of faculty in the art department. It looked like only 5 or 6. Skidmore doesnt’ have all that many more but it looks at least twice as many. My personal thought would be that better to have more people on faculty as it gives you a little flexibility. I’m so reluctant to make any judgments as I really know nothing about the school. One thought would be to go to other forums here outside of the arts section and do a search for both schools and see what the general statements are. I think that’ll give you a general feel for the school keeping in mind that one person’s experience won’t be yours necessarily. There is always that variable. </p>
<p>Okay I did a quick search but you should too. What I found were descriptions of F&M as Preppy (read conservative), but this was quick quick search you should take a look yourself, on the positive side, open to international students was another description.</p>
<p>Skidmore comments were creative thought, liberal for Northeast LACs but not overboard, a lot of liberty to be an individual at Skidmore.</p>
<p>and I did find this one comment which was positive:
The Art offerings, whether formal or informal, are undoubtedly one of Skidmore’s strongest points, paticularly with the new $14M Tang Museum. Beyond the Museum, which is used for interdiscpilary teaching purposes, there are smaller exhibit spaces where both alumni and current students exhibit.</p>
<p>Although I was not an Art major, I knew a number of people who were-they were quite happy with the facilities and offerings.</p>
<p>I was involved with the language department, as I minored in German (and speak French fluently.) I spent a year abroad, as a huge porportion of the student body does, and had a tremendous experience. One can either go through a Skidmore program, which is preferred, or through another university’s program, though that can be more difficult to justify to the Administration.</p>
<p>But keep in mind that this is one person’s opinion. I didn’t find any comments about arts at F&M but do a search because I ony had a few minutes to look.
Perhaps from your situation the best thing to do is search for the 2 schools here, read all the comments you find and see which one makes you feel “warm and fuzzy” like it’s the right choice. There are lots of comments about the 2 towns, etc. which will help you get a general feel also I think.
Good luck</p>
<p>Skidmore will have a very lively arts scene, both in the visual and performing arts – theater is a pre-professional program. We went to the Art Department’s Open House and were amazed at the vast array of studios – not just drawing, painting and sculpture, which all liberal arts colleges would have – but graphic design, fiber arts, metalworking and more that I can’t recall. The slogan for the school is “Creative Thought Matters,” and I think that it does really permeate the place. The faculty seems caring and involved. The school seems to strike a great balance between a liberal arts, learning for learning’s sake focus and a practical, career-oriented approach, as exemplified by its theater program and I recall it had a business program (also unusual for LAC); and I recall that there was definitely a practical side to the art dept. as well.</p>
<p>For sure, Skidmore will have an element of the rich white girl scene, but believe me, it is not the only school around that will have that! The girl I know that goes there (for theater) is as about as down to earth as can be.</p>