<p>Pizzagirl, I lOVE your response #458. Thank you from all of us WELL educated “others”!</p>
<p>Pizzagirl, what is it with the vicious attacks - and this is not the first time coming from you.</p>
<p>did I say that IB and Consulting are the only exciting and rewarding jobs out there?</p>
<p>No!</p>
<p>If you don’t think that there is some satisfaction in assisting a strugling young company reaching its dream of having enough funds in order to successfully market its products, then there is something very wrong with you.</p>
<p>If you don’t think that there is some satisfaction in assisting an owner of selling his company for an excellent price in the most efficient way possible so that he might take his long time desire to retire fromm those 100 hour weeks and at the same time provide his children with some financial security for their future, then there is something wrong with you. </p>
<p>If you don’t think that there is some satisfaction in structuring a complex deal in order to merge two companies whereby synergies are taken advantage then there is something wrong with you.</p>
<p>If you don’t think that there is some satisfcation in assisting in the reorganization of a bankrupt company in order to allow it to survive and potentially grow using the new capital structure then there is something wrong with you.</p>
<p>If you don’t think that there is some satifaction in assisting a foreign entity in acquiring a U.S. company in order to enter the U.S. market with its products and expand further, then there is something wrong with you.</p>
<p>so, please stop with the attacks.</p>
<p>Investment Bankers make a lot of money, but dont attack them for enjoying their work and being satisfied for doing it.</p>
<p>If you then want to talk about how satisfying it is for Mckinsey consultants to advice companies as to how to operate more efficiently, then that would be another post…</p>
<p>so stop with your attacks</p>
<p>your constant attacks on anything Ivy just because your educational background is from a midlevel midwestern school are unwarranted. Live with it. At least your nephew is going to attend a good school this fall.</p>
<p>O.K., let’s be nice now. PG went to NU. Not “midlevel”. Brown level … Cornell level … very nearly Dartmouth level. Venturing into Middle Ivy level (to use a College Confidential term of art.)</p>
<p>Nobody has mentioned the University of Phoenix or Starfleet Academy. This thread is a waste. I’m outta here . . .</p>
<p>ROFL. I do consulting myself and routinely work with CEO’s, VP’s and managing directors – sometimes on projects with folks from Bain, McKinsey, etc. I get the intellectual satisfaction. I’m just not so pretentious as to believe it’s the most exciting job on the planet. Different people prefer different types of jobs. The notion of grading a college’s elite-ness based on how many kids it sends to MC and IB is just silly. When someone says that College A is more elite than College B because College A sends more kids to McKinsey, or to Goldman Sachs, or to whatever, I just have to laugh because it tells me the person has absolutely no clue that there is a richness to life beyond what’s found in MB and IC. MB / IC jobs simply are no less or more important than any other job. </p>
<p>Now if you’ll excuse me, I have to go watch the Colbert Report starring my former classmate, Stephen Colbert. Oh noez what a failure, he didn’t go into investment banking!</p>
<p>^ What does the “richness of life” have to do with eliteness?</p>
<p>And JohnAdams12 (class of '12? are you still in college?), show me one place where I’ve attacked Ivy league schools. Clue: I haven’t. I don’t suffer pretentiousness gladly, though.</p>
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<p>Huh? I don’t understand what you are talking about. Since you replied about undergrad vs.law schools, I assumed you were referring to the list I put up about the alma maters of the US Supreme justices (assuming Kagan gets confirmed). So I don’t know what Berkely has to do with any of that since none of the justices attended it. And I’ve never met anybody who didn’t consider Yale to be an elite school, elite college, elite university, elite law school, and just about any other elite you care to name too.</p>
<p>Pizza, you have been personally attacking ivy league graduates for a while now, including myself…</p>
<p>I realize that you weren’t that satisfied with your time at the mid level midwest school of yours, but it is no reason to unilaterally attack the ivies.</p>
<p>just because your were “stuck” in that Fortune 500 company and had to leave and do consulting is no reason to attack the excitement that is sought after by Ivy leaguers that pursue their “dreams” in Investment Banking and Consulting jobs at the top firms such as Goldman Sachs and McKinsey.</p>
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<p>Pizza, you see, here is where you are wrong again with your attacks against me pesonally…</p>
<p>you attacked me personally,
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no where did I state that IB and Consultant “was the most exiciting job in the planet”,
no where did I say that a college is more elite because it sends more kids to IB and Consulting,
no where did I state did a college is more elite because of the number of kids it sends to McKinsey or Goldman Sachs,
no where did I say that the IB and Consulting jobs are more important than all others.
no where did I claim that there was no richness to life beyond MC and IB.</p>
<p>Regarding your mention of Colbert being a classmate and the other mention of the GM Officer being a family friend on another board, this is just an example of your attempt to cover up your insecurity for having attended a second level school.</p>
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<p>Can someone please put this utterly pointless thread out of its misery? Suffice it to say that “elite” means different things to different people.</p>
<p>hst, this is the kind of thread that CC was meant for.</p>
<p>Sorry, but I actually see a fair bit of useful information on CC from time to time… not on this thread, though. It resembles a shoving match on an elementary school playground.</p>
<p>Wow, JohnAdams, you sure jumped the shark there! “Second tier midwestern school”? Okey-dokey. Have a nice day.</p>
<p>Excessive pride in one’s school (or denigration of another’s) is typically a symptom of some deeply rooted personal problem, or complex of problems. Probably best left alone. Over and out.</p>
<p>so pizzagirl, you have attacked students for having a desire to be investment bankers and consultants</p>
<p>and now</p>
<p>you are attacking students for someday hoping to be a CEO of big corporations</p>
<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/1064895175-post17.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/1064895175-post17.html</a></p>
<p>what is wrong with you?</p>
<p>geesh</p>
<p>Anyone who calls Northwestern a “mid level Midwestern school” is a complete idiot. JohnAdams, it is Princetonians like you who reassure me that I made the right decision when I picked Duke over Princeton. I hope your elite degrees keep you comfort at night and make you forget about your many other inadequacies.</p>
<p>lesdia, tell us again how you claim that Duke would “crush” CalTech and how CalTech is not a better school than Duke…</p>
<p>do you have any idea what you are saying here?</p>
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<p>ledbia, I see that you are very comfortable in how an “elite” school should be defined as:</p>
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<p>And Minnesota is tops in ChemE but barely gets a sniff on here.</p>