<p>cherokee, now if you can only tell us who you are addressing this post to.</p>
<p>The more important number is endowment per pupil. That list is very different. I believe Princeton is number one there.</p>
<p>JohnAdams,</p>
<p>I am definitely enjoying your posts.</p>
<p>I don’t know if this is the same as the link you found:</p>
<p>[The</a> Johns Hopkins News-Letter](<a href=“http://blogs.jhunewsletter.com/?p=212]The”>http://blogs.jhunewsletter.com/?p=212)</p>
<p>Of course, this isn’t the best and only measure, but only a facet of what constitutes an “elite” institution…perhaps a better descriptive predicate should be used, rather than the somewhat objectionable adjective “elite”…</p>
<p>Of note is that since your alma mater, Princeton, is not on the list, I suppose the only conclusion one could draw from that is that P’ton doesn’t * need * to be on the list of fundraising leaders…
<em>chuckle</em>… just a little joke…</p>
<p>On a side note, an acquaintance’s son recently got *waitlisted *at P’ton, and the mother and father are flabbergasted…she’s upset because their last name is on some building on campus, donated from the old days of the steel monopolies…hah! talk about "old money " getting unceremoniously dumped ! There * is * justice in this world !</p>
<p>All I know is JHU eats Penn’s dust ;)</p>
<p>The reason Princeton is not on the list is because Princeton is small and doesn’t have many graduate schools. All of the other schools on that list are not only larger in student population, but also have Medical Schools, Law Schools, MBA programs etc., which is where a large amount of Alumni giving goes to.</p>
<p>Princeton’s figure is $214 million</p>
<p>not bad for a school the size of Princeton and with only about 2,500 graduate students, and more importanly, not bad for a school without a Med school.</p>
<p>If you do further reading in one of the links that I provided and in another thread on this message board, you will see that only about 25% of the funds donated privately are from alumni, on average. In addition, a bulk of the private funds raised from many of the schools are for the Med Schools and their research.</p>
<p>By the way, one of the links that I provided above includes all the major schools, by state, including many of the LAC’s.</p>
<p>Oh, and by the way, the above figures are for the latest fiscal year for all the schools.</p>
<p>Interesting stuff.</p>
<p>Yes, interesting.As I had said, tongue in cheek with reality in mind, that P’ton doesn’t need to be on this list, its reputation needs no proving. JHU does get tons from its med school, and if there are federal funds involved, then the applied physics lab accounts for quite a bit. My link stated they were voluntary donations however…anyway,it’s certainly another way to look at the original question this thread posted.</p>
<p>John adams, you give ivy leaguers a bad image. Just stop it</p>
<p>JA, I see your point, when any University with a Med school goes on a “capital campaign” for a new psychiatric wing or fundraiser , those numbers get lumped into the “personal” donations column…point well taken, these don’t have the same meaning as alum contribs, …well done !</p>
<p>Meh, those alumni donation things need to be taken with a grain of salt. For instance, Penn is in the middle of a campaign while Duke is not. Of course Penn will garner more donations this fiscal year. For a school not in campaign, I’d say Duke is doing just fine.</p>
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<p>‘Cept Penn is usually in the fundraising top 10 even when it’s not in the middle of a campaign. Just sayin’. ;)</p>
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<p>Perhaps the larger issue is that they fail to control for the size of the alumni bases and that mean donations are bad indicators due to the skewed distribution of income.</p>
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<p>Above arguing, are you?</p>
<p>JohnAdams, I hope you’re joking with the whole NU is “mid level” thing. That alone makes your whole argument laughable. Remember shanka? The ND alum whom you attacked because he believed it was an “elite” institution. Well, its more of a stretch to call NU “mid level” than to call ND “elite”.</p>
<p>I think JA touched on an interesting point in this list… NYU is higher up there than one would have guessed. They are vying with Columbia to become the dominant university in NYC, and have raised tons of capital, and fully intend to spend it on enlarging their real estate holdings in Manhattan ( no small feat )…they also have added an engineering school at some expense…they are definitely making a play. And their accepted applicants have a higher SAT score than one would expect for ther USNWR rank in the #30s( not to lend too much credence to those rankings ) …perhaps the adcom is angling for a top 20 spot, nowhere near Columbia’s of course, but Rome wasn’t built in a day…</p>
<p>Hawkette:</p>
<p>Not sure why you left MIT off. It has, according to the Wikipedia [url=<a href=“http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_colleges_and_universities_in_the_United_States_by_endowment]list[/url”>List of colleges and universities in the United States by endowment - Wikipedia]list[/url</a>] a $7.982B endowment, divided by 10,384 students is $768,682 per student. It would be just below Amherst at #6.</p>
<p>greenexcess, stop the attacks</p>
<p>has anyone told you that the “P” in HYPSM stands for Princeton and not Penn?</p>
<p>here you are defeding Penn all over the universe:</p>
<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/search.php?searchid=23183961[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/search.php?searchid=23183961</a></p>
<p>what is funny is that you spend most of your time not defending Penn against HYPSM, but against Cornell and many schools that are not even in the ivies…</p>
<p>what does this tell you about Penn?</p>
<p>Has it ever occurred to you that for many people Penn is a distant Ivy, sometimes confused with a State School?</p>
<p>In fact, even you yourself have decided here that you don’t even want to attend Penn:</p>
<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/1064798272-post1.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/1064798272-post1.html</a></p>
<p>and might even not go to college for a whole year at the small chance of potentially getting accepted at your real favorite schools - HYPS, as you state in the link.</p>
<p>YOU, my friend, are the one that is giving the Ivy league and Penn, in particular, a bad name.</p>
<p>shame on you</p>
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<p>GoBlueJays, NYU has benefitted during the last 20 years from the ultra high incomes earned in the hedge fund, Private Equity and IB business by its Stern School of Business Graduates that have donated a lot of money to the school.</p>
<p>Uh, actually JohnAdams, you are the one who is making the Ivy League look bad, by trying to establish your dominance over people through attacks and their schools which you deem “inferior” to your own.</p>
<p>The issue isn’t arguing, its that someone said something you didn’t like, so you went through their post history and made five consecutive posts trying to bully the person. This isn’t a courtroom, its a discussion topic. And this isn’t the first time you’ve been disrespectful to those you’ve gotten into disagreements with.</p>
<p>pb, for a while MIT was one of the couple of schools that did not want to release their June 2009 Endowment figures…Hawkette’s list must have come before MIT finally released it after figuring out that they weren’t alone in the significant drop in Endowments from 2008 to 2009.</p>
<p>MSauce, you are a high school student known on the Princeton thread as a bona fide “■■■■■” for the constant attacks on Princeton, its Professors, its students, its way of teaching and its Eating Clubs - in fact, attacks on everything Princeton.</p>
<p>and you dare come over here and complain about how I defended myself from attacks by a name-dropping Northwestern alumna that falsely accused me of making certain comments about Investment Banking and Consulting - while she was caught attempting to destroy the dreams of potential students in pursuing not only careers in Investment Banking, but careers in Consulting and finally, careers in large corporations that might lead to the dream of becoming a CEO of a large public company.</p>
<p>Then defending myself from the vicious attacks of a high school student that has yet enrolled at Duke, but has already viciously attacked Northwestern and Michigan in ways that I have rarely seen someone do?</p>
<p>how dare you!</p>
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