<p>So how long will it be before the partisans from both schools start a food fight with caviared crackers, champagne, canapes, haute tacos, and tiramisu? :D</p>
<p>^ Wait which schools? Oxford and Cambridge, or Stanford and Columbia?</p>
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<p>Which pairing is more likely to have haute tacos?</p>
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<p>Stanford and Columbia because
1.) Stanford’s campus is the Supreme Taco Bell and there’s a Chipotl</p>
<p>^Someone knows the whole food mapping of the campuses down to a ‘T’ :D</p>
<p>Wow… Only on CC can you find a thread about Stanford vs Columbia which turns into a Harvard vs YPSM thread, which in turn transforms into Harvard vs Everything which then turns into an Oxford vs Cambridge thread which then turns into a discussion about food fights with Spanish meals :p</p>
<p>Ah Justadream92…
it is estimated that there are about 500,000 people of Mexican ancestry in New York City. Yes, most of NY’s latino community hails from the Caribbean islands but nevertheless there is a significant number of Mexicans in many NYC neighborhoods. And who mentioned the Washington Heights neighborhood? I guess that poster has never heard of ‘Spanish Harlem,’ which is essentially a stone’s or two throw from the Columbia campus in Morningside Heights.</p>
<p>“Where did you go to school?” “I graduated from Stanfoooord.” It even sounds fancy</p>
<p>rearrange Stanford and it spells Snodfart. It even sounds aromatic.</p>
<p>Yeah, Oxford have the edge over Cambridge…sounds sexier because of the “x” in the name, or dunno 
Also, the Rhodes scholars have to do something with it, although Bill gates made a favour for Cambridge with creating the Gates scholarship, and donating 210 million to the university…but it needs time to become a really prestigious scholarship. That’s also a fact however, that Cambridge beats Oxford in world rankings. Let’s say Cambridge is a No 5 uni, while Oxford is a no 10. Not a big difference, truly 
Regarding Americans in Cambridge, I have to say I’ve met plenty of them, and while there are not many as undergrads, there are tons of Yanks studying for an MPhil or a PhD. (Studying in Oxford have it’s disadvantages for an American, thought. I just recently saw an American’s CV, who did his BA in some decent place, and then did his MPhil and DPhil in Oxford. As he suspected not everyone will understand these degrees, so he wrote: MPhil (MA), DPhil (PhD). Oxford degrees needs descriptions - Cambridge also have the MPhil which is the M.A. actually, but at least Cam awards a PhD, not a DPhil :D)</p>
<p>Regarding the original question: Stanford. But it’s not just more prestigious, but also represented well in the league tables, above Columbia. What I was surprised by is the fact that Columbia is always mentioned as “lesser Ivy”. I mean, yeah, compared to HYP it is not that strong (but have the most Noble literature winners), still, previously I thought in the US it is regarded as one of the ultra elite: I have to recognize, that while it is an Ivy, and highly regarded, usually no seemed as a top-notch one…</p>
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<p>And, according to you, it is not “ultra elite”…okay…that means something! Also, I like the attempted dig at “literature” winners–I don’t think the tally of winners is limited to literature. </p>
<p>Outside of cc, no one ever uses the term “lesser ivy”, “lower ivy”, etc. While HYP are the oldest and most known in the US, no one in the real world would refer to the other schools as such. I find it fascinating how people on this board love to throw these nonsensical terms around as an attempt to put the other schools down, as if what people on this board think (usually young kids in high school or insecure ones) really matters. I suspect many are bitter rejects of these so called “lesser ivies” or attend schools that would like to be considered peers and, as a way to boost their own self esteem, would like to diminish the stature of these other institutions. Columbia for some reason seems to be constantly attacked. I don’t know if it is because it is the preeminent university in the greatest city (which like NY, Americans love to hate), or because it has great sports teams…</p>
<p>Incidentally, this article in today’s Wall Street Journal doesn’t refer to Columbia as a lesser ivy…[McGurn:</a> The Army and the Ivy - WSJ.com](<a href=“http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703886904576031802138298800.html?KEYWORDS=rotc+columbia]McGurn:”>http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703886904576031802138298800.html?KEYWORDS=rotc+columbia)</p>
<p>"As President Obama and his speechwriters prepare for his upcoming State of the Union address, here’s a modest suggestion:</p>
<p>When you take the victory lap you are entitled to for ending the prohibition on gays serving openly in the military, follow up with a call to end the remaining discrimination faced by members of our military—the second-class status of Reserve Officers Training Corps (ROTC) cadets on some of our leading college campuses.</p>
<p>Mr. Obama took up this issue on the campaign trail in 2008. During a stop at his alma mater, Columbia University (class of '83), he spoke without equivocation."</p>
<p>Columbia also was in the news lately, albeit not necessarily great reasons, and the term used was “Operation Ivy” not “Operation Lesser Ivy” or “Operation NonHYP ivy”. Get my point!? Get over the fact that Columbia, along with Penn, Cornell, Brown and Dartmouth are members of the ivy league. It’s been around for a while and is not going anywhere anytime soon. No other schools will be joining or leaving, so let’s give all the other crazy stuff about “who will be the 9th ivy” to rest…</p>
<p>There are no articles that ever refer to Columbia and its status as an ivy anything but that. I challenge any of you to find this term being used by any reputable paper, organization or person having any significance. Good luck!</p>
<p>BTW, I went to school in Stanford’s backyard and thought Columbia was more prestigious. Does it matter!? Absolutely not! SO WHAT! No school has a monopoly on prestige, with the possible exception of Harvard…</p>
<p>People on here can’t be very bright if they can’t understand that both are prestigious schools and there is simply no need to crown one as more prestigious than the other.</p>
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<p>Well since you want to get technical…</p>
<p>I’m actually from Harlem, and Morningside Heights, also known as “The Better Harlem,” crosses over into East Harlem, which is traditionally called Spanish Harlem and the Heights extends its boundaries into both regions. Needless to say that this is essentially a huge block of Northeastern Manhattan that has been home to Latinos over the past century, so yes, I know what I’m talking about. Furthermore, the Columbia Medical Center and the Presbyterian Hospital are located just a few blocks away from the George Washington Bridge, which is in Washington Heights.</p>
<p>I didn’t say Mexicans were absent from NYC. What I said was that there aren’t that many, especially with respect to the Caribbean populations that trump it.</p>
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<p>Yield has nothing to do with prestige, warblers.</p>
<p>What you said was there are “not many Mexicans” in NY. I am sure 500,000 New Yorkers orginally from areas such as Jalisco and Nuevo Leon will disagree with you. Also, here’s a tidbit of trivia for you. Morningside Heights was once known as “Harlem Heights.”</p>
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<p>Precisely. In fact …</p>
<p>According to [NYC</a> Mexican Americans as “the Chosen” A Journey through NYC religions](<a href=“NYC Mexican Americans as “the Chosen” | A Journey through NYC religions”>NYC Mexican Americans as “the Chosen” | A Journey through NYC religions) , it’s estimated that about 350k Mexicans and Mexican Americans are living in NYC. With considerable reason, I would claim that the majority of these Mexicans are not concentrated in Harlem, nor its associated regions around Columbia, but are rather dispersed throughout the city with a population of ~8 million.</p>
<p>So yes, there are NOT that many Mexicans in New York City and I stand by that. I don’t know if you’re referring to New York state in general or New York City. </p>
<p>There actually is about 800,000 Mexicans living in the state of New York out of a population of ~19 million.</p>
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<p>… What’s your point? How is this relevant?</p>
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<p>Very observant, VM. Now if you rearrange Columbia you get lumbocia. This hereditary spinal disorder afflicted many upper class, European males in the 18th century. Christopher Columbus had a terrible case (he named the Nina after his masseuse). </p>
<p>To this day, lumbocia accounts for the terrible posture of many Ivy League students.</p>
<p>^That post was deep haha.</p>
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This illustrates why the order should not be reversed, whether USNWR likes it or not, as it may have totally different meanings.</p>
<p>The D and F keys on a QWERTY keyboard are adjacent, meaning that “Fartmouth” is a very easy typo to make.</p>
<p>:D</p>