Which schools beat SUNY Stony Brook for Computer Science?

As noted, other schools may have some of these problems. Right now there are problems with a mismatch between resources available and number of students attending the smallest of the 4 university centers. The World University Times ratings use only teaching faculty in their ratios-and that is how they calculate them-exactly as I did. Many of the faculty members included when you end up with the 20:1 ratio don’t teach any classes. Most only teach 1-3 a year. But those are included. I don’t think it makes much sense to include faculty members who don’t teach,( sometimes are not even on the campus) if you are trying to figure out resources available to students. In terms of evidence, the evidence is in the numbers, articles about problems accessing resources, etc. But I am not here to prove anything.

You are free to disregard what I say. I am one of the most knowledgable people on this site about the SUNY system. I know it better than the back of my hand. If you prefer thinking that SUNY is similar to the schools listed by the OP in the first paragraph of this thread, you are free to think that.

I have no vendetta but I am not hired by SUNY PR either. If the readers would prefer the university’s PR messages to accurate information, that is the reader’s choice. But if the public is complacent with what is happening at SUNY it will not improve. At one campus they are determined to have as efficient a program as possible which means as little support and as many students as they can stuff on to the campus. They plan 20K students by 2020 without corresponding increases in staff, faculty or resources. It does not take a genius to figure out what will happen with that. I think SUNY attracts good students and it is about as inexpensive as could be. But it is my opinion that the academic experience students get is problematic right now. I’m not saying students don’t like the school. I am talking only about the academic experience that they get.