<p>Based on recent mail, it appears that Nebraska wants OOS. I think same true for WY. </p>
<p>For a more geeky school, SD School of Mines is a good deal even for OOS.</p>
<p>Binghamton is an awesome school. Geneseo is the more LAC type, while Bing is a research university. To get to them from OOS is more difficult than us IS-ers since we’ll just drive. The best way is probably to fly to Syracuse and drive south (for Bing) and then for Geneseo make a right once you get to Bing and drive another two hours XD…</p>
<p>But in any case, Bing definitely wants OOS and the tuition is extremely reasonable for both IS and OOS. Standards are also slightly relaxed for OOS (or so I think…) but its getting harder in general to get into.</p>
<p>University of Michigan loves OOS especially if you r URM or from URS…</p>
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<p>Boy, that’s the truth- seems like at least one email and one snail mail per week.</p>
<p>Delaware loves them.</p>
<p>Probably this is because nobody actually lives in Delaware. Have you ever noticed that you can travel across Delaware from New Jersey to Maryland without ever seeing a car with a Delaware license plate? ;)</p>
<p>More seriously, my son, a decent but not spectacular student from Maryland (3.5 UW/4.0 W GPA, SATs in the upper 600s), applied to the University of Delaware and was offered a merit scholarship that would have made his costs comparable to those of attending the University of Maryland. (These people are not stupid; they knew exactly how much to offer.) He went to the University of Maryland anyway, but that’s beside the point.</p>
<p>I don’t know whether Penn State is actively seeking out of staters, but they explicitly say that they do not discriminate against them in admissions. Vast numbers of people from Maryland and New Jersey go to Penn State. In the case of the students from Maryland, some of those who are admitted to Penn State (the main University Park campus) were rejected from their own state flagship.</p>
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<p>No. Some state universities have strict limits on the number of out of staters that they can accept. UNC-Chapel Hill is an example. They’re limited by law to a certain (low) percentage of out of staters. Because of this, and because UNC-Chapel Hill is an extremely desirable school that vast numbers of out of staters would love to attend, the students who actually get accepted to UNC-Chapel Hill from out of state tend to be the kind who could also have gotten in to the just-below-HYPSM private schools. They are WAY more qualified than the average admitted student who actually lives in North Carolina.</p>
<p>It had been mentioned several times in this thread that UF does not want OOS. My D was invited to an event next weekend at UF but since we are OOS, I am wondering if it is going to be a waste of time. We are URM and I am wondering if that is what they are pushing now. Her test scores are good but not what I would consider exceptional (not 2000+).</p>
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<p>If she’s at all interested in the school, I think she should go. Colleges may have entirely different patterns of recruitment for out-of-state URMs than for out of state students who are not URM. I think this thread has been mostly focused on the non-URM situation and may not be particularly relevant to your daughter.</p>
<p>Florida loves IB students no matter where they’re from.</p>
<p>UVA and Wm&M have OOS quotas as does UMich. All state schools want high stat kids from OOS. What I 'd like to see is a current list of those schools that have low OOS premiums added to the tuition. THough it is cheaper to go to an OOS school over a private college, it’s getting close with some of those schools. It’s disheartening to see more than a $20K differential between OOS and regular tuition. Right now it’s about $35K to go to many well known OOS schools.</p>
<p>[Berkeley</a> Enrolls More Out-of-State Students - Admissions & Student Aid - The Chronicle of Higher Education](<a href=“http://chronicle.com/article/As-Berkeley-Enrolls-More/49049/?sid=at]Berkeley”>http://chronicle.com/article/As-Berkeley-Enrolls-More/49049/?sid=at)</p>
<p>The article focuses on minority enrollments but also describes trends in IS/OOS enrollments:</p>
<p>“The intended growth in nonresident students at Berkeley, from about 12 percent to 23 percent of the student body, comes as public universities everywhere are turning to out-of-state tuition to replace declining state support.”</p>
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“The intended growth in nonresident students at Berkeley, from about 12 percent to 23 percent of the student body, comes as public universities everywhere are turning to out-of-state tuition to replace declining state support.”</p>
<p>Ouch! That will make things even tougher for California students. That is a huge increase in OOS.</p>
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It is my understanding this program was just for OOS students from Idaho, Alaska, Oregon, Montana, and Hawaii and that it may be phased out even for students from these states.</p>
<p>I would place Washington State in the does NOT want OOS students group and Idaho, Montana, & Alaska in the WANTs OOS group.</p>
<p>University of South Carolina definitely wants OOS and has nice “pay in-state tuition” type scholarships–and you don’t have to be a top top student to get one (I know because S was offered one).</p>
<p>I live in NE, about 1 hour from UNL and they want to up their academic ranking by increasing their OOS acceptance pool especially now that they are going to join the BIG 10. NE would likely give $$ for solid OOS academics because of this. Husker football is awesome and the midwest folks from NE are just the best!! I have lived in NE for 4 years so my perspective is objective and truly that of someone that has lived in many different parts of the country. Go Big Red!</p>
<p>I attended U of Del (from NJ) and so many kids were from NJ,MD &PA in addition to the HUGE population from Wilmington high schools. U of DE is a great in state school that appeals to most instaters that are concerned with OOS tuition costs. Rutgers and U of MD are so much larger and have a very different feel which explains the attraction for OOS from those states.</p>
<p>Texas really does want OOS. That’s why thee schools have been fighting so much to get the 10% rule changed. They can’t get the diversity that they want the way things stand now.</p>
<p>I don’t think they have been mentioned (they usually are because it’s not a big secret). Alabama and Auburn offer very good merit aid to OOS students with good GPA & SAT/ACT scores. It goes on a graduating scale and you don’t have to be in the stratosphere to qualify. Often tuition is reduced to be a financial viable alternative for students whose state flagships are becoming so competitive that their in state students are not being admitted (VT is a good example). These students may also qualify for honors colleges at Alabama and Auburn as well, offering additional opportunities.
Simply food for thought.</p>
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Marian, while it is true that OOS students at UNC could get into other top schools, there’s no need to generalize and say that they are “way more qualified” that in-state students. I’m from NC and i’m going to UNC in the Fall, and the majority of people that I know that are going to UNC turned down other top schools (i.e. Duke, UVA, Carnegie Mellon, W&M, Wake Forest, Davidson, Emory, and Cornell) because it’s such a great deal for instate tuition. Yes OOSers may have top stats but so do the majority of instaters! The “average admitted student” from where I live in NC would also stand a good chance at getting in from OOS!</p>
<p>My perceptions:</p>
<p>Relatively Stronger Interest in OOS:
Oregon
Iowa (good merit aid for OOS, and lower cost to begin with)
Indiana
Connecticut
Arizona (lower cost)
Kansas (lower cost)
Colorado</p>
<p>Relatively Lower Interest (limited aid, tight academic requirements):
(actually there are all interested, but they do not make is easier financially or academically)
Washington
North Carolina
Texas
Illinois (but getting more interested)
Pennsylvania (Pitt, Penn State)
Michigan</p>
<p>I’m guessing if you need FA as an OOS, you don’t have a great chance?</p>