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<p>I was wondering which university is harder to get into. Is UC Berkeley harder to get into or is University of Toronto more difficult. Which university has higher SAT requirements for admissions?</p>
<p>Why does it matter which is harder to get in? Are you trying to figure out which one to apply to? or which you think it’s “better”.</p>
<p>Depends for what and whom. For a native Californian I would probably say uoft. For everyone else probably Berkley (although some programs like uoft’s med school are hyper competitive probably match or exceed Berkley).</p>
<p>As A uoft alumnus I can say:
Uoft is generally not very selective for arts but much more selective for engineering or hard sciences.</p>
<p>Also if you are comparing which to apply to there are much better methods than simply checking the selectivity rates.</p>
<p>So UC Berkeley is harder to get into than U of T? hmmm</p>
<p>Can I add an additional question. Which university is better in terms of reputation and teaching? I want to go to these universities, but I don’t know which is better.</p>
<p>^it doesn’t necessarily work that way, A university isn’t always necessarily “better” in general terms. It really all depends on your field. For instance, Harvard is “better” than Carnegie Mellon U, but when it comes to Comp. Sci, CMU blows Harvard out of the water. You should see which university is better suited for YOUR field.</p>
<p>If you have IB, Uoft is much much much easier.</p>
<p>I apologize for being vague in my questioning, but is there any way you can elucidate which university is better for most majors, especially at the undergrad level?</p>
<p>I haven’t picked what I want to do yet, so my major would be unclear at the moment.</p>
<p>Berkeley is harder to get into, and much more so for arts. Plus many colleges’ reputations in any given field lie in their graduate program. </p>
<p>Beware: U Toronto is a major grade deflator.</p>
<p>U Toronto is a safety at 3.5/1800 for arts; however, engineering requires 2100-ish on the SAT and 3.75+.</p>
<p>So to sum it all up, which university do you guys think I should go to?</p>
<p>If you get into UCB, definitely, definitely go there instead of UofT.</p>
<p>You should visit both schools and see which one you like more. Don’t just pick a school based on reputation and rankings. However if reputation is really what is key to you Berkley is one of the 6 University “Superbrands” ([University</a> rankings show ‘super-brands’ escaping chasing pack | News | Times Higher Education](<a href=“http://www.timeshighereducation.co.uk/news/university-rankings-show-super-brands-escaping-chasing-pack/2002290.article]University”>World University Rankings blog: how the 'university superbrands' compare | Times Higher Education (THE))). UofT’s reputation is solid but it isn’t a superbrand.</p>
<p>As I said though try to visit the schools and pick the one you LIKE more.</p>
<p>Berkeley is pretty stats driven, I’ll just say that. Min score for OOS is ~2150 SAT and obviously a good gpa, probably 3.85+ UW.</p>
<p>My mom went to UofT and I’m applying there this fall. I’m apply to Cal and other UC’s as well. </p>
<p>UofT is very stats driven, even more so than Berkeley. UofT doesn’t really look at EC’s unless you’re borderline. I think 3.75+/1950+ and you’re good to go. This isn’t because UofT is “so much worse” than Berkeley, Canada just has a really hard grading system (A’s aren’t as common). </p>
<p>Cal has a more rounded approach to admissions. It’s harder to get in forsure. I think if you get into Berkeley, you should go. Especially if you’re gonna be looking for a job in the US. Cost wise, both are around the same.</p>
<p>I believe UofT is ranked #19 internationally, with UCB at #22. Hope I helped, and good luck!</p>
<p>I guess my reluctance comes from the fact that I like both schools. But I’m afraid that if I pick one, I’ll regret it. I need to be absolutely sure I made the right choice, even if that is unrealistic. You’re assistance to my dilemma would be really nice.</p>
<p>I hope to work in America as I have no intention of staying in Canada.</p>
<p>Which university is better for undergrad? I heard that both universities are notorious for big classroom sizes.</p>
<p>U Toronto only really starts to look at ECs when getting people off the waitlist… and most Canadian universities (UBC and Queen’s are the ones who look at ECs from the onset) do so too.</p>
<p>As far as how good one’s undergraduate experience would be, it really depends on the fields considered. At Toronto you get students of a wider spectrum of academic ability, especially since in-province students can get into that school a lot more easily than California kids would at Berkeley, so you have ot take that into account.</p>
<p>At U Toronto, if you feel that nothing will make you happy there but four years of studying one field, declare a specialist major. U Toronto has two levels for majors: the specialist major and the regular one; if you do not declare a specialist major you will have to declare two regular ones instead, or one regular major and two minors.</p>
<p>So you’re saying that University of Toronto would first prefer Ontario students before anyone else?</p>
<p>Classes at both universities tend to be big, but as you take more specialized classes in your junior or senior year there will be less students. Class discussions at U of T are rare, however. Also, someone above said UofT is a major grade deflator. This is true, but Berkeley is as well (although I think they’re trying to change that).
If you’re still stuck, I would take into consideration the environment/campus life and see which one you like better.</p>
<p>It is simply the effect of having 2x+ as many undergraduate seats as Berkeley (spread over 3 campuses) and not having as many applicants… It’s not like UNC-Chapel Hill as far as geographic preference is given, though.</p>
<p>UC Berkeley campus is spectacular. University of Toronto is also very nice. If one was living in Canada, for example, would they be more impressed if you got a University of Toronto degree or a UC Berkeley degree?</p>
<p>Also, which university is better for the sciences?</p>
<p>Sorry for double posting, but I have an idea. Can anyone tell me details about the student body of UC Berkeley and the university of Toronto? If I’m going to spend four years in either space, I would really like to know which university has better students, scholastically? I guess what I’m trying to say is which university has smarter students?</p>