<p>"I remember reading on the board that the Jewish religion has the second highest average SAT score out of all religions. I'll try to find it."</p>
<p>If you are suggesting that there is a link between one's religion and one's intelligence I would like to see the science on that one. The concept that genetic differences in races lead to differences in IQ has been completely dimissed (led to a lot of problems like one race being able to own another and it had no basis in fact).There is no meaningfull genetic difference in mankind. Other species like penguins have lots of differences. If the article you reference shows anything it is because of socioeconomic factors.</p>
<p>Oh, but I have many many friends who consider themselves ethnically Jewish. I have a number of agnostic/atheist friends, as well as some who would define as other religions or just not religious at all, but who also self-define as Jewish. For those people, it's NOT a religious division -- they consider it to be their ethnic heritage.</p>
<p>"They can consider what they want, but it is not an ethnicity; it is a religion."</p>
<p>US courts have held, as an example, that a menora can be displayed on the public square because it is a secular symbol not a religious one. If the courts believed that to be Jewish is only a religious designation then a menora which commenorates a miraculous occurrence could only be a religious symbol and barred from the public square. Been to Israel many many times and the vast majority of the country considers themselves secular Jews and not religious Jews.</p>
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I see a lot of qualitative differences, one of them being that while Jews often do value learning and education quite highly, there isn't nearly the gotta-go-Ivy-or-bust mentality, at all.
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<p>Really? </p>
<p>Then why do some Ivies have as much as a 30% Jewish student body?</p>
<p>Plus, almost half of the Asian students attending college go to Jr. college.</p>
<p>k&s, that doesn't mean that their culture values Ivy-or-bust, just because they are well represented. I don't see too many threads on here about how my awful Jewish parents tell me I'm a failure if I don't go to an Ivy, or chastise me for only getting into Brown but not Harvard.</p>
<p>Plus, almost half of the Asian students attending college go to Jr. college."</p>
<p>That's a meaningless stat unless you know what % of all students in the US attending college go to a junior or community college. Does anyone know?</p>
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Cook is one of millions of Americans for whom community college is the path to a brighter future. These campuses enroll 46 percent of all U.S. college students, playing a key role in educating the students who can't afford or can't get into a four-year school.
<p>Pizzagirl - for the Ivies to have as many Jewish students as they do, one can infer that it was pretty impt. for them to 1st apply to said IL school and then decide to matriculate there.</p>
<p>As for the community college stat - it's not meaningless - since Asian-Ams and African-Ams have the highest % rate.</p>
<p>All of this talk about race and religion had me thinking about the small religious sect that my family belongs to. The episcopalian population in the US is presently smaller than the Jewish population. We have to pay full-freight at most colleges, absolutely no affirmative action on our behalf, we are frequently made fun of ('preppy' comments), we can only take solace in the fact that we run the country. (all of this said firmly with tongue in cheek)
:-) Religious</a> Affiliation of U.S. Presidents * Religion Religion</a> of the Supreme Court U.S</a>. Vice-Presidents - Religious Affiliation (Religion)</p>
<p>Tokyo: No, the Episcopal church of America is a member of the worldwide Anglican Communion, which originated with the Church of England. It hasn't been a 'branch' since the American Revolution, because CofE clergy members were required to swear an oath of allegiance to the English monarch. There is separately the <em>Anglican</em> Church in America, which is differently aligned. </p>
<p>hubbell: True story. One half of my family are what I'd call "Old Southern Aristocracy"'; that side of my family is largely Episcopalian. Up until the late 19th century, part of that branch of the family was originally Mennonite, but according to family lore, converted to Episcopalianism way back "because it was more upwardly socially mobile".</p>
<p>most recent available data:
Largest denominations/denominational families in U.S.
(Harris poll, self-identification, 2000)
Religious
Denomination Percentage of
registered voters
in survey
Catholic 19.9%
Baptist 12.9%
Methodist 8.2%
Lutheran 3.9%
Presbyterian 2.5%
Jewish 2.3%
Episcopalian 1.7%
Latter-day Saints 1.4% </p>
<p>both are quite a small percentage of the population. Their educational and professional accomplishments are disproportionate to their relative numbers.</p>
<p>yet many children of mixed christian-jewish marriages become Jewish...contributing to their making up 2.3 percent of the population. Most Jewish kids at my school are only the child of one Jewish parent.</p>
<p>Chedva:
The Warner Brothers were three or four Jewish Polish immigrant brothers who first settled in Canada. Definitely Jewish. Check out Wikipedia.</p>