<p>Being a state like New York, the state schools could and should be better. Look at schools like UNC-Chapel Hill, the incredibly diverse UC system, Michigan-Ann Arbor, UVA, even Texas. New York is THE most famous state in the world. So why doesn't it have a better state school system?</p>
<p>The funds are split too evenly among the schools, resulting in no one great school?</p>
<p>Um BInghamton, Buffalo.</p>
<p>probrolly 2 of the best public schools in the nother easy.</p>
<p>Not saying they are the best, but they are very close.</p>
<p>Binghamton is on ranks with a Cornell education.</p>
<p>Nothing bad about Suny</p>
<p>I know theirs nothing bad about SUNY; in fact, it's a great public school system. However, with the money and reputation New York has, you'd just expect the public school system to be far better than it currently is (i.e. compete with Cali's public school system).</p>
<p>VincentPerricone, Binghamton is no where near a Cornell education -- and never will be. Matter of fact, Cornell is the beneficiary of many of the brightest Binghamton students who transfer out of there as soon as possible. A Binghamton education is comparable to such state universities as Indiana, Colorado, Missouri, UC-Santa Cruz, UConn, etc. See a discussion about Binghamton (and the SUNY system) on these threads:</p>
<p>I have many friends who, would have been accepted to Cornell but there just was not enough room. They were told to go to Binghamton without even applying for the 1st two years and then they would go to Cornell.</p>
<p>so id say if cornell would allow future students to take classes at another school, towrds a cornell degree. It must be on a semi-decent level of the same.</p>
<p>But they have to maintain top grades into order to be accepted as transfer students -- the same would be true if they were transferring into Cornell from Indiana, Colorado (which I know is what one student did last year), Missouri, etc. If your friends were that good to begin with, they would've been accepted at Cornell for all four years. Please don't dilude yourself into thinking that Binghamton is on any par (or "semi-decent level") with Cornell.</p>
<p>no they were accepted, by an agreement to go in their junior year.</p>
<p>they were told to go to Binghamton for 2 years.</p>
<p>They are not applying as transfer students. they ahve already been accepted, and will have to attend for 2 years and the credits they take in Binghamton are the ones in which cornell chooses for them, as they would be the same classes.</p>
<p>I have 2 friends, robert and Samantha, who are both in this program.</p>
<p>if ya dont beleve call up Cornell admissions and ask.</p>
<p>I have heard of that agreement b/t Cornell and Binghamton as well. The reason they choose Binghamton is because of the close ties Cornell has with the SUNY system. And since Bing. is the best SUNY thats where they send these students that accept the agreement. But you cannot even compare the resources between the two schools. Cornell comes out better on almost every factor...this was attested to by my friend from high school that went to Bing and then tranferred to Cornell.</p>
<p>Im not saying Binghamton is better or close.</p>
<p>of corse an ivy leage such as cornell is going to be better,</p>
<p>But they do have this program and I have 2 friends in it and cornell sends some students to Binghamton for 2 years.</p>
<p>yup, its true.</p>
<p>the suny system thrived under rockerfeller as governor and since his term has ended its spiraled downward. so the reason- 1. the state legislature cuts the funds going to the sunys each year, and without the proper funding they cant be as competitive as the well funded UC system 2. good schools like binghamton get the same funding as the bad schools like new paltz and farmingdale and</p>
<p>LOL i don't think New York state is the "most well known," it just got lucky because it has the same name as NYC haha</p>
<p>and its the same with almost every other state except california.</p>
<p>NYC is the 2nd biggest mentropilis in the world.</p>
<p>and its the 3rd state with the highest population,</p>
<p>behind cali and texas,.</p>
<p>yeah, cornell does do a guaranteed transfer thing, which can apply no matter where you go. and they also have close ties with the suny system as well as community colleges in ny, seeing as they are partly state funded....but there is no possible way that you could use this as evidence that the two are even close to being on the same level academically. it just means that people that are at the top level of other schools have a chance at going to cornell...</p>
<p>Abraham Lincoln signed the Morrill Land Grant Act, which deeded ownership of vast tracts of federal land to the states; proceeds from the sale of the land to private individuals was to be used for post-secondary education.</p>
<p>Some states used the funds to found a flagship state university (U.C. Berkeley, to name one example); others divided the money between existing colleges. In New York, Ezra Cornell (who had become wealthy by inventing a machine that buried telegraph cables underground) offered to match the proceeds from the land Grant Act with his own funds if the state would allow him to found a university. He worked with Andrew White, a fellow senator, to get the bill through the New York legislature. (Andrew White went on to be Cornell's first president.)</p>
<p>Meanwhile, downstate, New York City had independently opened some highly regarded public institutions, such as City College, Brooklyn College, and Hunter College, which were later united into the City University of New York.</p>
<p>By the time Gov. Nelson Rockefeller began to pour a lot of public money into the SUNY system in the 1960's, there were already a large number of well established private schools located throughout the northeast.</p>
<p>"...but there is no possible way that you could use this as evidence that the two are even close to being on the same level academically."</p>
<p>Yes... All of the UC campuses (except for Berkeley and UCLA) have transfer agreements with the CA community colleges. You can't simply imply that Footfill CC is in the same league with say, UC-Davis.</p>
<p>did you forget that california has the cal state system, which is just as underfunded/low in the ranks as the SUNY's.</p>
<p>The CSUs have a very different mission though. They are meant to support the education of people in their surrounding communities, and have very large commuter and adult student populations (Cal Poly SLO being an exception).</p>
<p>THe SUNY schools at COrnell currently have a variety of articulation agreements in place with many of the SUNY schools (both 4 year and 2 year schools)</p>
<p>You can do a google for Cornell and articulation agreements. Usally the schools will state the terms and the programs of the agreements.</p>