<p>@ fiesta, the fact that you have to apply to get into a highly selective Haas junior year at cal is what makes it more competitive.</p>
<p>Sure, everyone is ultimately competing to get into grad school, but the way cal business is set up adds a whole new level of competition that UCLA business students don’t have to deal with. Thus, experience would be totally different.</p>
<p>Right, because if you actually knew that as a fact, you wouldn’t need any opinions on the matter anyways.</p>
<p>Keep pigeonholing.</p>
<p>wow man. stop looking to argue. I’m not here for contention. geez…
fine whatever. cal and ucla are exactly the same.</p>
<p>Fiesta, you’re immature. Head north.</p>
<p>I live in SoCal and I’ve lived up North as well…and weather was never an issue. I love how sunny it gets here in SoCal, but sometimes the weather is too irregular and that ruins some days…hahaha, that and it gets TOO hot here during Summer. </p>
<p>I love how your first reason was the fake barbie dolls in LA. ROFLMAO, just kidding. [: I never noticed it until every guy who made a thread on here kept bringing that as one of their reasons for going to UCLA…but I do have to agree…>__>;; a bit! </p>
<p>Whatever your choice, good luck! [:</p>
<p>haha thanks.
yeah. my friends tell me it’s not so much that ucla has cuter girls (but i’d have to visit again to make sure), its more that people care more about how they look on campus. whereas at cal, people just roll out of bed… haha</p>
<p>fahsiao, UCLA does not have a business program, they only have econ programs.</p>
<p>Haas is not exactly highly selective, it is selective, but not highly selection; 50% of applicants get in.</p>
<p>UCLA has a higher population, meaning you have a lot more people to compete with.</p>
<p>A Haas-reject Economics major at Cal will beat out a UCLA business economics major for graduate school and job opportunties; the difference in prestige between Berkeley and UCLA is huge when it comes to business administration and economics.</p>
<p>gah, i’m in the same situation as the opening person… same interest/ intended major except that i was accepted to Cal for Spring and LA for fall… dunno what i should do…</p>
<p>
Actually, the econ classes at UCLA are smaller than those at Berkeley. </p>
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Source…? Didn’t think you had one. Not true; many other factors come into play, such as GPA, internships, etc. They don’t just look at the Cal degree and say “Oh, we’ll hire him.” UCLA, Stanford, USC, etc. are too competitive to automatically hire one over another.</p>
<p>Well I would imagine that happiness is more important prestige. But, people might want to pick prestige in college to put them in a better position later in life to live comfortably. This can allow one to pursue happiness.</p>
<p>Ummm…undergraduate business degrees are not especially sought after by prestigious MBA programs. They figure that they’re perfectly able to teach you marketing, accounting, and finance in grad school. They’re right.</p>
<p>They’re a lot more likely to be interested in students who did not already have a business degree, but who do bring other interesting backgrounds to the table. This year’s graduating class from Harvard Business School had the following undergrad degree dist.:
Humanities and Social Sciences 36%
Engineering and Natural Sciences 34%
Business Administration 25%
Other 5%
Three quarters of the students DIDN’T have undergraduate business degrees. </p>
<p>Stanford’s Class of 2010 is even lower:
Undergraduate Majors
Humanities/Social Sciences 46%
Engineering/Mathematics/Natural Sciences 35%
Business 19%</p>
<p>If your goal is to become a cpa, an undergraduate business degree is just the ticket. If your goal is ultimately to get into a highly-ranked MBA program, I’d major in anything BUT business. If your goal is to graduate from a highly-ranked MBA program and get a sought-after job, find an undergrad major that will add some value to the MBA degree. My classmates with undergraduate degrees in math, engineering and physics were often the ones who went off to heavy duty finance positions, while the big consulting and venture capital firms loved people who came with undergrad degrees in many different fields except business. I knew some kids with undergrad business degrees, and out of the MBA program they most often went to work directly for companies in fairly pedestrian positions in sales, marketing, or accounting.</p>
<p>YMMV.</p>
<p>Well, you can go on and get a MBA even if you do graduate in business (I did–and my MBA was from UCLA).</p>
<p>But if you are sure you plan to go into accounting, then either school will do (in fact, I would prefer UCLA over Cal). If you plan to do a marketing, finance, legal studies, operations science or entrepreneurship degree as an undergraduate major, then I would suggest UC Berkeley.</p>
<p>Keep in mind a few things, though:</p>
<p>(1) When you are accepted at Cal, you aren’t yet accepted to the Haas Business program–and you will need about a 3.42 GPA during your first two years at Cal to be accepted to the program–something only about half of the pre-business majors are able to accomplish.</p>
<p>(2) You can go to UCLA during the first two years and still apply to UC Berkeley’s Haas program if you do well and still want to transfer</p>
<p>(3) UCLA does have the “hotter” babes (sorry, Cal), but I’m not sure that’s the best reason to choose a school to attend.</p>
<p>(4) A lot of the choice of where you go should consider other factors, like where you want to be after graduation and what you plan to do during your years at the school, and what your “backup” major may possibly be. I ended up in northern California after graduating from UCLA (had two offers from up here, but that was after the MBA program). As an undergraduate, you are likely to end up working wherever you go to school (more than half of all students do).</p>
<p>(5) Cal is primarily known for its outstanding graduate programs–where it has 47 of its 48 programs ranked in the top 10, has the most nobel prize winners, the most MacArthur fellows, and the most pulitzer prize winners. (How USNW only ranks it as the 21st best program in the country is beyond me). But when you consider that UCLA is ranked like 25th best program (versus Cal’s 21st, it gives you an idea of how the schools compare)–PS UCLA is also ranked WAYYYYYYtoo low by USNW (which always gives preference to private schools only because they count alumni giving rates, which is higher at the elite privates).</p>
<p>Lastly, you will do well at both schools as long as you spend the time studying you need to–so don’t worry too much about your decision–you really can’t go wrong in this case.</p>
<p>One last postscript (PS): UC Berkeley and UCLA’s MBA programs are both ranked in the top 10-15 (in fact, I think UCLA’s is ranked as the higher one)–so when it comes to the MBA programs, there really isn’t that much to argue about either. Stanford’s MBA program is actually the highest rank one in the state (and ranks anywhere from #1 to #3 depending upon which ranking you look at for each of the past 5 years)–but they don’t have an undergraduate business program at all.</p>
<p>If you’re planning on going to grad school, then it doesn’t really matter where you pick. Most employers only look at your highest degree and the school in which you got that degree. So prestige isn’t that really important for undergrad. I am currently attending Cal for grad school, but I graduated from UCLA for undergrad. In my personal experience, I truly enjoyed UCLA more. Especially after high school, UCLA is a place to “ease-in” into your college life while still be challenged by its academic programs. Its social surroundings and climate makes it an ideal place to spend the first 4 years of your college life. The transition to college is hard for most people. So you don’t want to be challenged by a competitive and fierce atmosphere (like that of Cal). UCLA - while its atmosphere is still competitive - is definitely easier than Cal. But this is only my opinion, and the ultimate decision is up to you, so my advice is - pick a school that meets your academic expectations and ALSO your overall personal well-being.</p>
<p>hey arabrab what kind of majors would add value to an mba degree other than engineering, math, and physics? would polisci be considered one?</p>
<p>I have the same question as Black Lantern. I want to major in business but I do recognize that a lot of the successful MBA grads have an undergrad degree in engineering ( or something related) and then pursue business in grad school. Would an undergrad degree in poly sci, middle eastern studies or something other than engineering, math and phsyics ( and related fields) be as competitive and add value to an undergrad business degree?</p>