<p>Wisconsin also has a problem getting grads to go to NY. The tradition is to head to Chicago first which is viewed as a more reasonable place to live and work. Hard to disagree IMHO.</p>
<p>Well, they have that same exact problem with their law school, even getting people to go to Chicago is hard enough. Incentives like no BAR exam and cheap col. And isnt there a boom right outside of madison with some biotech companies and manufacturing?</p>
<p>Madison is booimg in several sectors--biotech, software, insurance, mutual funds. Staying there to live used to mean working for the state. Now there are options. Over 13% of the class stays now.</p>
<p>IUB-Kelley is ranked high because it's a great school if you want to go into finance but aren't a top student. And I'm not saying that because I'm applying to Kelley.</p>
<p>So honest abe........Stern v Kelley......which one you gonna choose?</p>
<p>I choose you, Pikachu!</p>
<p>Firstly, I decided against applying to Stern. I'm doing CAS ED. Secondly, Kelley is a great business school that also happens to be a safety for me. Too bad I have like too many safeties...</p>
<p>Don't think FOR A SECOND that I would choose Kelley over Stern...Kelley's a good business school, but it's not THAT good.</p>
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Dresner = middle market
BofA = having trouble attracting top talent as they choose other banks over their unit
Houlihan Lokey Howard & Zukin = serves smaller clients = middle market, yet still international
Brown Gibbons Lang & Company = middle market
ThinkEquity Partners = rather small middle market ibank
BMO = similar to bofa and big in CANADA and europe
Sandler O'Neill & Partners, L.P. = boutique for certan business sectors
Robert W. Baird & Co, Inc. = middle market</p>
<p>And then you have UBS, Goldman and Bear sterns, 2 of which are leaders in the league tables and one of which shows up now and again.
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<p>To start off with, Baird is not a middle-market. It is a boutique bank that specializes in asset management in the same manner that Lazard specializes in merger advisory. It does not do underwriting.</p>
<p>And why did you leave out any mention of JP Morgan or Deutsche Bank?</p>
<p>JP Morgan actually was one of the most popular employment destinations for Kelley grads in 2006. The most popular being Deloitte.</p>
<p>JP Morgan is actually doing a presentation on-campus December 1, 2006 in BU102. An enterprising prospective student could find out how well-represented Kelley is on the Street straight from the horse's mouth...</p>
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Does anybody have any ideas or personal opinions about what kind of gpa (cumulative or within business major) a student coming from Kelley should have in order to be competitive for consulting internships or full-time jobs? Obviously you need more than a gpa but right now I'm trying to understand what "academic" range I should try to strive for.
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<p>You will need 3.0+. 3.5+ would be nice. They don't care about the difference between say a 3.7 and a 3.9. (Doesn't mean you shouldn't aim high though.)</p>
<p>But GPA is just one part of the picture. What else will be on your resume?</p>
<p>Suggestion: Do Not Waste Your Summers.</p>
<p>Get internships (political, corporate, etc.), study abroad. Just have interesting things to talk about during an interview.</p>
<p>Foreign languages are also a large plus for consulting. Mandarin Chinese, Japanese or German will all pique their interest. Thankfully, IU has a very strong foreign language program. So that shouldn't be a problem.</p>
<p>cool thanks, yea im aiming for the highest gpa i can get. ill probaly take an active part (including leadership i hope) in CLD and ASB and probaly the consulting workshop if i get in. I got some minor roles right now with RHA but I don't want to make a long term comittment. ill problay have korean as my second language cuz im korean american and i feel i should try to become fluent in my own language (im halfway there). yea i know i shouldn't waste my summers, i started x220 right now to start researching on internships. thanks qwertip.</p>
<p>what business major in kelley would be apropriate? don't think major matters but would like some help on which ones would help "prepare" me for the case interviews and the job itself.</p>
<p>my fault i left those two out, especially jp morgan.</p>
<p>But please check again on Baird, they have a capital markets division which includes investment banking, trading etc. And yes, it is middle market</p>
<p>According to an earlier posted link, 74% of finance graduates don't leave the midwest. Only 11% make it the north-east (ie, NY and Boston). Doesn't sound like the school is heavily represented outside of Chicago.</p>
<p>Many people PREFER the Midwest to live and work after college if they grew up there. Why should they leave?</p>
<p>i wouldn't say that unless you know the actual class of students. Although it is easy to see due to the benefits chicago offers</p>
<p>i've actually heard alot of people at IU say how nice Chicago is and how rude people in NYC are so I can attest to what barron's said; i think its partially true that many people prefer to live in the midwest after college. besides other than the professional oppurtunities, the people in nyc don't seem to have a good rep., even people i know back home (california) seem to say nyc is fast paced and people walk all over you.</p>