<p>I doubt many people hate UCLA; people on CC tend not to represent the general population. There are just quite a few USC students on here; quite a few UCLA students as well given how much USC gets trampled up on. Threads on this rivalry actually sounds quite benign on CC.</p>
<p>All you have to do is look up to the threads on Ivies, Stanford, Duke, etc. to see where the real bickering. And if you throw in WashU, Oxbridge, Cornell, UChicago, etc., you get a real ****storm.</p>
<p>… appeared to be a topic starter wrt this thread.</p>
<p>I’ve seen other similarly named topics as:</p>
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<li>Why the hate for Cornell?</li>
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<p>2 Why the hatred for Cal?</p>
<p>… or however they were worded.</p>
<p>Legitmately, I don’t see a lot of hatred for UCLA nor USC nor Cornell.</p>
<p>Cal has a some haters here because of the idea that Cal = Harvard, Yale, etc, and supported by UCB, RML and others. ; )</p>
<p>Edit add: bayboi to the supporters list. Let’s see if I can conjure him up.</p>
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<p>Are you referring to this, GeorgiaGirl?: <a href=“http://students.berkeley.edu/admissions/freshmen.asp[/url]”>http://students.berkeley.edu/admissions/freshmen.asp</a></p>
<p>Note the asterisk:
An enrollment estimate is based on enrolled students.</p>
<p>We’ll wait for official CDS numbers to be published.<br>
All I can say is at least Berkeley is readily forthcoming with admissions data (i.e. posting a CDS, searchable UC Statfinder site, etc.)…unlike some other schools.</p>
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Kids prefer UCLA because they want to stay in Socal with its warmer weather, more “glamorous” location, supposed better looking student body, and reputation for less cut-throat academics. </p>
<p>Some kids think of Berkeley like the bogey man. :)</p>
<p>I understand the dislike/disrespect for Cornell, Tufts, and Duke, as all seem to be trying to be something they aren’t. But UCLA? I’d imagine any haters are merely envious…it’s got no weaknesses…perfect weather, top-notch sports, beautiful safe neighborhood, great academics, etc.</p>
<p>… to Palos Verdes Peninsula High School’s [list of students’](<a href=“http://www.pvpusd.k12.ca.us/penhi/collegeacceptance/collegeacceptance2010.pdf”>http://www.pvpusd.k12.ca.us/penhi/collegeacceptance/collegeacceptance2010.pdf</a>) gpa, SAT, application, matribulation (denoted by ‘X’), EC list for the ~ 500 senior class (first student numerically is listed as 500 or so). I wasn’t the first to post this link, so if the administrators there aren’t espcially keen on the use of the list, then remember, I was just passing this info on… ; )</p>
<p>I find it interesting, again, that Michigan accepted nearly everyone and Boston College was more stringent than I had thought.</p>
<p>^^ Oh, and UCLA is trying to be something it’s not?! With same script logo, school colors (was baby blue now “true” blue), fight song, and mascot as its big brother?!</p>
<p>Why, why, why would UCLA ever want to be like Cal?</p>
<p>Cal’s trying to duplicate UCLA’s athletic success by bastardizing its standards.</p>
<p>Marshawn Lynch, Desean Jackson, UCB?</p>
<p>^ I agree man…I ain’t happy. Fortunately those toads say their alma mater is “Oakland Tech” on NFL intros…no Cal degree for them.</p>
<p>But I do like the 35-7 Cal-UCLA score… :)</p>
<p>I’m not including you in on the list with Lynch and Jackson, but am lookikng for a response from you.</p>
<p>… but I like the effects. ; )</p>
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<p>Phew! Thank you! ;)</p>
<p>Selectivity differences that are < 0.2% are hardly a reason for any school to be “hated on”. The fact remains that UCLA got more applications than any other University in the country. </p>
<p>UCLA Fall Freshman Statistics:
2010 Applicants 57,651
Admits 13,020<br>
% Admitted 22.58 </p>
<p>My son was admitted to both UCB and UCLA. He had an awful time deciding which one to attend, but has been very happy with the choice he eventually made. And that’s the bottom line. Go where you will be happiest, USNWR be damned!</p>
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<p>I think you’re reaching with the last one, ‘less cut-throat academics.’</p>
<p>UCLA"s on the very accelerated quarter term. Premed and science in general are just as competitive, I like this word better.</p>
<p>Wrt your second comment, there are a lot of more ‘hot’ people because of 1) athletics, 2) those who want entertainment careers. The south campus people look a lot like Cal’s. ; )</p>
<p>I like that you referred to DJ, ML as ‘toads.’ Gold teeth, etc… I do like that td run by Desean against the Giants though, to win the game for the Eagles.</p>
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Every UC school other than San Francisco has blue and yellow as their school colors. They’re not the Berkeley colors, they’re the “University of California” colors and the University of California has evolved to be more than just Berkeley to Cal’s dismay.</p>
<p>As for the likeliness, UCLA didn’t try to copy Cal. In its early history, Berkeley coerced UCLA and other universities to follow its lead in many areas. Berkeley attempted to make UCLA a faceless, homogeneous entity. If it were up to Berkeley, all the other UCs would be satellite campuses and the CSUs would be awarding high school diplomas.</p>
<p>^ Nah, the other schools at least are different with the mascots. True, blue and gold are the colors of UC, but UCLA has ever so increased to a darker shade of blue since the '90s. Why did UCLA change their fight song to an exact copy of Berkeley’s in 1984?</p>
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I agree, drax. Note I said “reputation” for less cut-throat academics.
I love that Cal is on the semester system…much more time for in-depth topics and a breath between exams.</p>
<p>… regarding the fight song. Switch a few words here, and voila… you have Sons of Westwood. It’s not Cal’s prime fight song anyway, so why doesn’t Cal just give it to UCLA, or put forth a $ figure.</p>
<p>Let’s undo, clear up some things:</p>
<p>1) Oakland Tech sends 15-20 to Cal every year. You were putting down Marshawn Lynch, not his high school.</p>
<p>2) There are plenty of ‘hot’ people at South Campus, UCLA; you just have to look harder for them. ; )</p>
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<p>Everybody, let’s cut UCBChemEGrad some slack. 
Show him some compassion! He’s obviously still traumatized by the fact that UCLA rejected his application over 10 years ago. :(</p>
<p>Anyone who has any hatred for a school in the top 30 is moronic. These are all good schools, and your distaste for them is probably rooted in either a. your envy/rejection or b. your attempt to make yourself feel better that your <insert school=“” that=“” you=“” attend=“”>.</insert></p>
<p>Seriously, think about this. Is anyone ever going to say, “Oh no! they went to UCLA!” or “Oh no! they went to Berkeley!” or “Oh no! they went to <insert other=”" good=“” schools=“”>!"? </insert></p>
<p>How many of you have actually set foot on these campuses (all top 30 or even 40 schools)? Attended their classes? Or are you just saying what everyone else says? Why do you not formulate your own opinions and not the opinions of others?</p>
<p>Does a 10, 20, or 30 points on the average SAT score make a difference for colleges? Does the average of school X’s SAT scores of 720 mean it’s less than school Y’s with 750? Does it really matter of it’s public or private? What does that even mean if the ranking is 10 or 15, 23 or 26? </p>
<p>Since when is it your right to attend any good school? Because your test scores and class rank said so? Are all of us just numbers? Is there more to an individual, to a character? You may be static, but who is to say that another person isn’t dynamic? As Randy Pausch asks in the Last Lecture, “Are you a tigger or an eeyore?” </p>
<p>Or perhaps, perhaps there is more to choosing a school and a school choosing you. Because out of all these top schools you will get a great education. The quintessential question then becomes not on what school others extol or disparage, but what you will make out of your time there. And it ticks away…whether we like it or not.</p>