<p>I mean seriously. In our school (public, approx 2700 students) all but 3 are bleeding heart liberals, some of which talk about how bad and stupid bush is all the time. I'm not one of those radical republicans but come on, give us a brake. I dont want to hear lies about government insted of american history or english. Is it theis salary that makes them angry?</p>
<p>because republicans look at education like businessmen and dont understand what its really like to be a teacher</p>
<p>see, the difference between liberals and conservatives is that liberals have rational, logical political opinions and conservatives don't.</p>
<p>teachers are educated people. thus, they are more likely to realize this.</p>
<p>You're</a> welcome!</p>
<p>also, i will not give you a "brake," nor will I deliver a serious response so long as you label viewpoints in opposition to yours as "lies." :)</p>
<p>this is strange: i've always thought that conservatives are moved by logic, not liberals. That's probably the reason why one of our republican teachers is the chemistry teacher and science departmant chair, and two others teach math. Meanwhile, there is little logic in english, history, or arts.
Most of the viewpoints liberals present cannot be proven. Unless you can give me an example :)</p>
<p>first, saying that english and history have no link to formal logic is absolutely ridiculous. take a philosophy class and come back to me.</p>
<p>second, no political idea can ever be proven true through formal logic. for example, i can't show through a formal deductive proof that gay marriage is right or wrong. so, all these ideas are open to debate by their very nature.</p>
<p>what i mean by a "logical" viewpoint is a stance that is well-reasoned and based on credible authority.</p>
<p>To continue with the gay marriage example, here is how conservatives and liberals would respond to questioning:
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Conservative: gay marriage should be illegal
Me: why
Conservative: cuz the bible says so.
[/quote]
This is not persuasive or reasonable because it is based on a justification that is only accessible to the people who subscribe to that opinion in the first place.</p>
<p>On the other hand:
[quote]
Liberal: we should grant gays more rights
Me: why
Liberal: because we ought respect their intrinsic human worth regardless of our personal beliefs. humans are endowed with certain liberties that can't be abridged just because some people feel uncomfortable when others exercise them.
[/quote]
This is much more persuasive because it appeals to some generally recognized philosophical construct and explains why the situation at hand is linked to it.</p>
<p>I hope this has been illustrative, but it's irrelevant to your initial question.</p>
<p>becuz teachers are in unions.</p>
<p>and there pussies.</p>
<p>as packerfan22 so brilliantly illustrates, online political discussions are futile. sigh.</p>
<p>^lol...so true</p>
<p>First, by english and history i meant english and history classes, not english and social studies departments.
Second, you did not present both sides of the issue, therefore, your reasoning isn't far from your personal opinion. This is exactly what i'm concerned about: teachers talk about political issues presenting only their view, logical or not, instead of acquainting us with both sides good enough for us to take side or express our own judgement. There can be just as good of an explanation to the conservative point of view on the issue of gay marriages by the way.</p>
<p>
[quote]
teachers talk about political issues presenting only their view, logical or not, instead of acquainting us with both sides good enough for us to take side or express our own judgement.
[/quote]
that's cool with me. i'm down with balanced political discourse.
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There can be just as good of an explanation to the conservative point of view on the issue of gay marriages by the way.
[/quote]
while i don't want to derail your thread, i'd love to hear this explanation.</p>
<p>oh, and to be honest, i think teachers tend to lean left because academia is generally a liberal environment. teachers are essentially professional scholars, so they're more likely to adopt liberal views.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.clint.ca/argue/argue.jpg%5B/url%5D">http://www.clint.ca/argue/argue.jpg</a></p>
<p>but it's so much fun!</p>
<p>lol yeah. . . yeah it sure is. unless you're losing. then you spite a random string of letters called a username which really means nothing irl.</p>
<p>it's an awesome time killer. what else would you do on a monday during summer while babysitting a sister? ;)</p>
<p>may i suggest an alternative...eat cheese!</p>
<p>i followed this advice, and i'm enjoying a chunk of muenster at the moment. this is much more relaxing than having an argument. thanks dvlfnfv5!</p>
<p>as i say, you can never go wrong with a huge ball of cheese</p>
<p>nah ... peanuts and tomato juice is the way to go!</p>
<p>Teachers = Thinking
Thinking = Liberalism</p>
<p>..therefore,
Teachers = Liberal</p>
<p>(logical, isn't it??)</p>