“One of the largest school districts in New York may ban sharing of student discipline records with the universities and colleges that are considering admitting them, saying the practice disadvantages students of color. Syracuse City School District, located in central New York, will vote on the proposed policy change next week.” …
Makes you wonder just how much trouble some kids in some districts are getting into- and what level of colleges those kids are trying to get into. Adcoms know some hs have a one-strike policy and try to weigh, when some infraction is reported.
And a number of hs already don’t report disciplinary issues on the school report, by policy. On CC, we’re usually talking of colleges that do want to see good judgment among their candidates and the ability to fit to expectations, academic and social.
I imagine it’s a response to studies that show that black kids, in particular, are disciplined differently than white kids. They’re more likely to get suspended, etc for the same stuff other kids aren’t.
(since cc has had plenty of threads on Title IX and the assaults on college campuses), does this also mean that disciplinary actions for [simple?] sexual assault will also not be reported? hmmmmm
Asian kids get the least amount of discipline in school but they also get discriminated against by the ivy league and other elitist schools. discipline records should not be shared, but because if it is not on a criminal level it is just a private matter of a youth.
just like an HR manager knows when someone calls on a prior employee you give start date, finish date, starting salary and finishing salary…nothing else no matter how hard the person checking pushes. (HR 101)
But doesn’t the common app ask about suspensions/expulsions so even if a school district didn’t share, wouldn’t a student still have to tell the colleges or lie?
At our local high school, in my younger son’s class year he had a Caucasian classmate who was caught cheating on a Spanish exam. He was well known for cheating amongst his peers, some of whom finally got fed up and complained to their teachers and administration. Once alerted, all his teachers kept a close eye on him and soon after, his Spanish teacher caught him looking under his desk during an exam where he apparently left some notes with the info he needed. Only disciplinary action: he had earlier been elected to the national honors society and the administration rescinded his invitation. Everyone became aware of his infraction when he wasn’t at the induction ceremony. Apparently, no one mentioned this in his college application…not our school administration, his guidance counselor or the kid himself. He was admitted ED with legacy to Wharton at Penn, and is a sophomore there. Meanwhile, one of my son’s best friends, also a legacy at Penn who applied ED, and an honest kid, was rejected outright.
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expulsions so even if a school district didn’t share, wouldn’t a student still have to tell the colleges or lie?
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I thought the same thing. Why would students admit to being suspended or disciplined if the college can’t ever find out?
If schools are concerned about unfairness, then why not just ban suspensions and expulsions of students of color. Seems like it would accomplish what they want.
This may only very peripherally apply, but my younger D dyed her hair bright green recently and spent the next month being appalled at how much the school staff started treating her differently (the ones that didn’t know her). She used to eat lunch in the library because the cafeteria was too crowded; one day an administrator came in, saw her, and threatened to officially discipline her if she didn’t go to the cafeteria immediately. (the admin had never said boo when she was in the library when her hair was long and blonde).
I 100% believe that people are treated differently because of how they appear on the outside. And that sucks. At least my kid can turn her hair back to a color that lets her fly under the random arbitrary disciplinary radar.